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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/NLBOGMFQ4AAOHPFVS2XW2ZYY4LGON7XF/?format=api",
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        "address": "amsat-bb (a) wd9ewk.net",
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    "sender_name": "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Multiple FM satellite QSOs in Field Day (was Re: Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!)",
    "date": "2011-06-27T17:26:37Z",
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    "content": "Hi!\n\nI've seen comments like this from several on the list regarding Field Day:\n\n> REALLY disappointed at the number of stations making multiple contacts on\n> the FM birds...  what these people don't seem to realize is that every extra\n> contact they make deprives another station of the opportunity to make their\n> one FD contact.\n\nThis is not necessarily true.\n\nYes, there are some stations that treat FM satellites just like a station on\n20m SSB - work as many as possible.  I did not attempt to work any of the\nFM passes east of me, figuring my 5W station would not be able to get\nthrough.  Based on the comments I've read from those in that part of the\ncountry, I did better by working HF or 6m during those eastern passes.\nThe \"minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired\ncommunications\" (from FCC part 97.313a) would have been many times\nmore than the 5W I used.  I confined my FM satellite activity to west-coast\npasses, and - as K6LCS and KO6TH previously mentioned - the AO-51\npass late Saturday afternoon was a pleasant surprise in how easy it was\nto get through.  Much easier for me than the SSB birds!\n\nOn the west-coast AO-27 and AO-51 passes Saturday afternoon, I logged\nmore than one QSO on each pass.  I was not a \"big gun\" station, working in\nthe forest 20 miles/32km west of Flagstaff AZ as a 1B/1-op/battery station at\n5W as I typically do for Field Day.  I will post a short video clip showing my\nstation, along with some photos, in the next day or so.  Unfortunately, my\none SO-50 QSO didn't help for Field Day, as that QSO was with a station\nthat only gave his grid locator instead of a Field Day exchange.  As for the\nextra AO-27 and AO-51 QSOs I logged, they fell into one of two categories -\neither helping another station get their satellite QSO (and 100-point bonus),\nor responding to calls from other stations.\n\nAfter making my point-scoring AO-27 QSO, I heard John W9EN on as N6SD.\nWe had chatted on VO-52 Saturday morning before the start of Field Day,\nand I knew he would be on as N6SD instead of his own call.  After some time\npassed, I never heard anyone call or work N6SD.  I called N6SD, and we\nmade a very quick QSO.  It was N6SD's first satellite QSO, giving them the\n100-point bonus under ARRL Field Day rules.  For me, I logged the QSO,\nbut will not score it when I file my log with both ARRL and AMSAT.  I was\nnot operating in violation of *FCC* rules in making this contact, and -\nbased on how I have filed my logs in previous Field Days where I had more\nthan one QSO on an FM satellite - not scoring the additional QSO is\nacceptable with both groups.  I'm sure it also helped that both John and I\nare experienced satellite operators, able to adapt to the conditions and\nmake a very quick QSO despite the crowd.\n\nAfter the QSO with N6SD on that AO-27 pass, and also on the later AO-51\npass, other stations called me.  I recognized some of the voices as\nexperienced satellite operators working under other call signs.  I responded,\nmade the Field Day exchanges, and logged a few more non-scoring QSOs.\nI don't try to remember if I heard the other stations make QSOs earlier in\nthe pass.  I work them, and log the QSOs accordingly.  Things were so good\non the Saturday afternoon AO-51 pass that one station was making normal\nnon-Field Day QSOs among the others who were making Field Day QSOs.\nI worked that station, giving him my grid locator instead of my Field Day\nexchange.\n\nTo paint everyone who logged additional FM satellite QSOs during Field Day\nas denying others from making a Field Day satellite QSO is not accurate.  It\nmay be the only way some stations were able to log a Field Day satellite QSO,\nand - in some cases - get the 100-point ARRL bonus.  Since the crowded\nconditions continue on the FM birds despite the one-QSO limit in both ARRL\nand AMSAT rules, things probably won't change unless something else is\ndone.  For example, take away the 100-point bonus in the ARRL Field Day\nrules for completing a satellite QSO.  I'm not advocating that ARRL do that,\nbut that bonus is why many groups will take the time and effort to get on the\nsatellites for Field Day.  Otherwise, satellite operating would be\nlike trying to\nmake terrestrial 2m, 222 MHz, 70cm, etc. Field Day QSOs in much of North\nAmerica - a lot of work for a few QSOs.\n\n73!\n\n\n\n\n\nPatrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK\nhttp://www.wd9ewk.net/\n\n",
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