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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/NSJCPRENY5NO7A72WPLAUAVSDEMENK2T/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "20160111094438.OSEWZ.162050.imail@fed1rmwml214", "message_id_hash": "NSJCPRENY5NO7A72WPLAUAVSDEMENK2T", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/NSJCPRENY5NO7A72WPLAUAVSDEMENK2T/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "ingejack (a) cox.net", "mailman_id": "9f44eab2f5cb4be4bc5d05a55b3853dd", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/9f44eab2f5cb4be4bc5d05a55b3853dd/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "[email protected]", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11", "date": "2016-01-11T14:44:38Z", "parent": null, "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Cruising with the family during the Symposium would be a great way to partake of the meetings while the rest of the family could enjoy the amenities of the cruise .I have personally take 5 cruises including the Baltic Sea cruise to Russia. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of them and for a family outing they can't be beat. The prices are not much more than a hotel but where else can you get all the free food while enjoying foreign lands and scenery while partaking of the meetings !! I don't know why this subject was not brought up before !! Great Idea Clayton !! JACK- KC7MG\n---- [email protected] wrote: \n> Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to\n> \[email protected]\n> \n> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\n> \thttp://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\n> \[email protected]\n> \n> You can reach the person managing the list at\n> \[email protected]\n> \n> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific\n> than \"Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest...\"\n> \n> \n> Today's Topics:\n> \n> 1. Small-Satellite Launch Vehicles (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)\n> 2. Re: Cruise with Amsat! (John Spasojevich)\n> 3. Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Bob)\n> 4. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (W M Willoughby)\n> 5. Re: AO-85 DUV Help (Mark L. Hammond)\n> 6. ARISS Contact Wednesday (John Spasojevich)\n> 7. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Jerry Buxton)\n> 8. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Alan)\n> 9. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Glenn Anderson)\n> 10. Cruise with AMSAT (Ed Cunningham)\n> 11. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (Paul Stoetzer)\n> 12. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (John Spasojevich)\n> \n> \n> ----------------------------------------------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 1\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:27:26 -0700\n> From: \"Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL\" <[email protected]>\n> To: [email protected]\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Small-Satellite Launch Vehicles\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"; format=flowed\n> \n> \n> Launch opportunities for us may be on the rise.\n> \n> A market for cubesats and other small satellites is driving development of\n> low-cost launch vehicles.\n> \n> \n> http://aviationweek.com/space/emerging-small-satellite-launch-vehicles#slide-0-field_images-1389141\n> \n> \n> KB7ADL\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 2\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:35:37 -0600\n> From: John Spasojevich <[email protected]>\n> To: \"R.T.Liddy\" <[email protected]>\n> Cc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID:\n> \t<CA+qbou6Ef2Nd-jFDyzGYGtzFa+eux10U+hJtg86Lzd5eOnDDgw@mail.gmail.com>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n> \n> I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised\n> before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top\n> deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as\n> you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston,\n> the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised\n> on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I\n> guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but\n> watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the\n> show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't\n> need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the\n> Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2\n> people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person,\n> Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin\n> vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it.\n> Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a\n> lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get\n> everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with\n> a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there.\n> \n> Smooth Sailing & 73,\n> \n> John - AG9D\n> \n> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy <[email protected]> wrote:\n> \n> > For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following:\n> > We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor\n> > several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week\n> > and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper\n> > than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium\n> > sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be\n> > well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL\n> > From: Stephen E. Belter <[email protected]>\n> > To: 'AMSAT BB' <[email protected]>\n> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM\n> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> >\n> > Clint,\n> >\n> > Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information.\n> >\n> > The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was\n> > assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a\n> > ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham\n> > members of the family can attend and have a good time?\n> >\n> > You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are\n> > similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference\n> > facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not\n> > a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially.\n> >\n> > Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings\n> > mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S.\n> > Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a\n> > virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements.\n> >\n> > I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from\n> > recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think\n> > it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of\n> > experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an\n> > experiment.\n> >\n> > In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of\n> > volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA.\n> > Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland\n> > and DC area.\n> >\n> > In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work,\n> > and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite\n> > operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer.\n> > He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend.\n> >\n> > 73, Steve N9IP\n> > --\n> > Steve Belter, [email protected]\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, \"AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan\"\n> > <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > >Clint,\n> > >\n> > >You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a\n> > >valuable service, but it has\n> > >very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as\n> > >long as you recognize it.\n> > >Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and\n> > >viewpoints in AMSAT who can\n> > >understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you\n> > >deride. AMSAT has many\n> > >functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great\n> > >effect and economy, but at\n> > >least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard\n> > >as it may be to believe,\n> > >some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance\n> > >to combine a family friendly\n> > >cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get\n> > >some details and balance, and\n> > >see what plays out over the next few months.\n> > >\n> > >I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is\n> > >what Gulf grids they will\n> > >activate?\n> > >\n> > >73s,\n> > >\n> > >Alan\n> > >WA4SCA\n> > >\n> > >\n> > >\n> > ><-----Original Message-----\n> > ><From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clint\n> > >Bradford\n> > ><Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:14 PM\n> > ><To: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n> > ><Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> > ><\n> > ><Now THERE'S a guaranteed manner in which to increase\n> > ><attendance: add a cruise cost to air fare.\n> > ><\n> > ><You gotta be kidding.\n> > ><\n> > ><This makes your online pleas for money raising on behalf of AMSAT-NA\n> > ><for satellite projects seem trivial and unnecessary: AMSAT must\n> > ><be loaded if they think this is going to enhance their stature and\n> > ><bank account.\n> > ><\n> > ><This makes me wonder what the true desire is of AMSAT-NA. If it\n> > ><is, indeed, to \"disseminate info about and build birds,\" then the\n> > ><best method available is remote, live, videocasts from presenters.\n> > ><That would cost the presenter NOTHING in transportation costs.\n> > ><It would involve EVERY CONTINENT on the planet. And it would\n> > ><allow the largest possible audiences to \"attend.\" Minimal charge\n> > ><for password access to whatever session one wanted to see ... or\n> > ><a conference package fee ... allow that access to be shown to a\n> > ><classroom or audience ... those fees are TOTAL PROFIT to AMSAT\n> > ><(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters).\n> > ><\n> > ><Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance\n> > ><ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed.\n> > ><\n> > ><Unless the same minds who thought up \"let's take a cruise\" are in charge\n> > ><of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring\n> > ><educational sessions to the largest audience.\n> > ><\n> > ><Clint Bradford\n> > ><_______________________________________________\n> > ><Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > ><to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > >Opinions expressed\n> > ><are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > >AMSAT-NA.\n> > ><Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > >program!\n> > ><Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > >\n> > >\n> > >_______________________________________________\n> > >Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > >Opinions expressed\n> > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > >AMSAT-NA.\n> > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 3\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:59:03 -0500\n> From: Bob <[email protected]>\n> To: [email protected]\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=utf-8\n> \n> Thanks to Clayton, a non-board member, just a regular member like the rest of us who stepped up to the bat to have us try something new. I remember when amateur satellites were new to me. It was exciting and different - like this new venture. I am sure that, with all of the quantitative expertise on the board, AMSAT has evaluated the cost-benefits of this venture and it passed. \n> \n> Great to try something new. \n> \n> NZ2Z\n> \n> Bob - Sent from my iPad\n> \n> Begin forwarded message:\n> \n> > From: John Spasojevich <[email protected]>\n> > Date: January 10, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM EST\n> > To: \"R.T.Liddy\" <[email protected]>\n> > Cc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> > \n> > I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised\n> > before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top\n> > deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as\n> > you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston,\n> > the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised\n> > on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I\n> > guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but\n> > watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the\n> > show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't\n> > need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the\n> > Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2\n> > people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person,\n> > Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin\n> > vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it.\n> > Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a\n> > lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get\n> > everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with\n> > a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there.\n> > \n> > Smooth Sailing & 73,\n> > \n> > John - AG9D\n> > \n> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >> \n> >> For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following:\n> >> We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor\n> >> several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week\n> >> and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper\n> >> than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium\n> >> sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be\n> >> well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL\n> >> From: Stephen E. Belter <[email protected]>\n> >> To: 'AMSAT BB' <[email protected]>\n> >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM\n> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> >> \n> >> Clint,\n> >> \n> >> Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information.\n> >> \n> >> The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was\n> >> assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a\n> >> ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham\n> >> members of the family can attend and have a good time?\n> >> \n> >> You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are\n> >> similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference\n> >> facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not\n> >> a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially.\n> >> \n> >> Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings\n> >> mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S.\n> >> Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a\n> >> virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements.\n> >> \n> >> I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from\n> >> recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think\n> >> it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of\n> >> experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an\n> >> experiment.\n> >> \n> >> In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of\n> >> volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA.\n> >> Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland\n> >> and DC area.\n> >> \n> >> In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work,\n> >> and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite\n> >> operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer.\n> >> He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend.\n> >> \n> >> 73, Steve N9IP\n> >> --\n> >> Steve Belter, [email protected]\n> >> \n> >> \n> >> \n> >> \n> >> On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, \"AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan\"\n> >> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:\n> >> \n> >>> Clint,\n> >>> \n> >>> You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a\n> >>> valuable service, but it has\n> >>> very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as\n> >>> long as you recognize it.\n> >>> Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and\n> >>> viewpoints in AMSAT who can\n> >>> understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you\n> >>> deride. AMSAT has many\n> >>> functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great\n> >>> effect and economy, but at\n> >>> least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard\n> >>> as it may be to believe,\n> >>> some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance\n> >>> to combine a family friendly\n> >>> cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get\n> >>> some details and balance, and\n> >>> see what plays out over the next few months.\n> >>> \n> >>> I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is\n> >>> what Gulf grids they will\n> >>> activate?\n> >>> \n> >>> 73s,\n> >>> \n> >>> Alan\n> >>> WA4SCA\n> >>> \n> >>> \n> >>> \n> >>> <-----Original Message-----\n> >>> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clint\n> >>> Bradford\n> >>> <Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:14 PM\n> >>> <To: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n> >>> <Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> >>> <\n> >>> <Now THERE'S a guaranteed manner in which to increase\n> >>> <attendance: add a cruise cost to air fare.\n> >>> <\n> >>> <You gotta be kidding.\n> >>> <\n> >>> <This makes your online pleas for money raising on behalf of AMSAT-NA\n> >>> <for satellite projects seem trivial and unnecessary: AMSAT must\n> >>> <be loaded if they think this is going to enhance their stature and\n> >>> <bank account.\n> >>> <\n> >>> <This makes me wonder what the true desire is of AMSAT-NA. If it\n> >>> <is, indeed, to \"disseminate info about and build birds,\" then the\n> >>> <best method available is remote, live, videocasts from presenters.\n> >>> <That would cost the presenter NOTHING in transportation costs.\n> >>> <It would involve EVERY CONTINENT on the planet. And it would\n> >>> <allow the largest possible audiences to \"attend.\" Minimal charge\n> >>> <for password access to whatever session one wanted to see ... or\n> >>> <a conference package fee ... allow that access to be shown to a\n> >>> <classroom or audience ... those fees are TOTAL PROFIT to AMSAT\n> >>> <(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters).\n> >>> <\n> >>> <Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance\n> >>> <ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed.\n> >>> <\n> >>> <Unless the same minds who thought up \"let's take a cruise\" are in charge\n> >>> <of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring\n> >>> <educational sessions to the largest audience.\n> >>> <\n> >>> <Clint Bradford\n> >>> <_______________________________________________\n> >>> <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >>> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> >>> Opinions expressed\n> >>> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >>> AMSAT-NA.\n> >>> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >>> program!\n> >>> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>> \n> >>> \n> >>> _______________________________________________\n> >>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> >>> Opinions expressed\n> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >>> AMSAT-NA.\n> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >> \n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> >> expressed\n> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >> AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >> \n> >> \n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> >> expressed\n> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >> AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 4\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:04:25 -0600\n> From: \"W M Willoughby\" <[email protected]>\n> To: <[email protected]>\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=\"us-ascii\"\n> \n> I think it is a great idea to try the cruise venue. I don't see how my wife\n> could possibly object to being on a cruise while I am in satellite\n> presentations and I know she would enjoy meeting some of my radio friends.\n> If the attendance is particularly low, we will know not to try it again! I\n> just hope Carnival will be cooperative about a bunch of hams waving\n> satellite antennas around. Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on\n> deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking\n> to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the\n> AMSAT Journal about a year from now.\n> \n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 5\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:08:29 -0500\n> From: \"Mark L. Hammond\" <[email protected]>\n> To: [email protected],[email protected]\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n> \n> Hello Mike,\n> \n> The good news is that DUV works with the IC-910, no mods. \n> \n> For the IC-910 you need to use the same port and pin as used for 9600 full duplex satellite mode packet. I *think* it's MAIN data port pin 4----but do NOT trust me :) Too many radios, and too many flip-flops of main vs. sub on the different radios. Make sure menu settings are proper for 9600 satellite packet, too, or the audio won't be coming from the right source. \n> \n> Another HUGELY important matter---the sound card you are inputting into. With the IC-910 at my QTH, the built-in sound card in the PC motherboard works pretty well, using Line In. However, an external Apple USB audio dongle device will NOT work--it cuts off the lowe frequency and won't print any telemetry.\n> \n> So, even having the right port and pin isn't enough--make sure your sound card works, too!\n> \n> 73,\n> \n> Mark N8MH \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> >Message: 5\n> >Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:45:47 -0700\n> >From: \"Mike McConnell\" <[email protected]>\n> >To: <[email protected]>\n> >Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help\n> >Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n> >\n> >I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my\n> >IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode.\n> >Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4?\n> >\n> > \n> >\n> >Thanks\n> >\n> > \n> >\n> > \n> >\n> >W0PD\n> >\n> >Michael McConnell, Ph D.\n> >\n> >Horizon City, TX 79928\n> >\n> > \n> >\n> > \n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >------------------------------\n> >\n> >Message: 6\n> >Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 22:06:14 -0500\n> >From: Burns Fisher <[email protected]>\n> >To: Mike McConnell <[email protected]>\n> >Cc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n> >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help\n> >Message-ID:\n> > <CABX7KxWNZkQyh__smrCbYVvr6r_54QTPvRo8nzkJfvwfFiPz4w@mail.gmail.com>\n> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n> >\n> >Hi MIke,\n> >\n> >Yes, you certainly need to take it from data out. Normal audio will filter\n> >out the lows below a few hundred hertz, and that is right where the DUV\n> >data is. Check the specs though...sometime rigs take out all filtering on\n> >9600 baud packet. Some take out only the filtering on the high end. So\n> >you may have to hack a wire in on the other side of all the filtering.\n> >\n> >Burns W2BFJ\n> >\n> >\n> >On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Mike McConnell <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> >> I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my\n> >> IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode.\n> >> Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4?\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> Thanks\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> W0PD\n> >>\n> >> Michael McConnell, Ph D.\n> >>\n> >> Horizon City, TX 79928\n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 6\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:09:45 -0600\n> From: John Spasojevich <[email protected]>\n> To: Amsat - BBs <[email protected]>\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Contact Wednesday\n> Message-ID:\n> \t<CA+qbou5suhQ2KpZhnFiXaOMWeD1o3oL7LF_id0LiK-MgLSpHAQ@mail.gmail.com>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n> \n> Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at\n> \n> *Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy* on\n> Wednesday 13 January. AOS is anticipated at 1135 UTC\n> \n> The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The\n> contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI in South Australia.\n> The contact is expected to be conducted in English.\n> \n> Audio from this contact will be fed into the:\n> \n> EchoLink *AMSAT* Server (101377)\n> \n> IRLP Node 9010 - Discovery Reflector\n> \n> Streaming Audio available on https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/\n> \n> Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes\n> prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the\n> preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station\n> call to the ISS.\n> \n> Please note that breaks on IRLP and Echolink are manual, connected\n> repeaters may time out.\n> \n> ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other\n> maneuver, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes **\n> \n> 73,\n> \n> John - AG9D\n> \n> ARISS Audio Distribution\n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 7\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:33:22 -0600\n> From: Jerry Buxton <[email protected]>\n> To: [email protected]\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252\n> \n> Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD,\n> too! :-D\n> \n> Jerry Buxton, N?JY\n> \n> On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote:\n> > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on\n> > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking\n> > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the\n> > AMSAT Journal about a year from now.\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> \n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 8\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:58:50 -0600\n> From: Alan <[email protected]>\n> To: \"'Jerry Buxton'\" <[email protected]>,\t<[email protected]>\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> \n> And meanwhile on the bridge, they are frantically trying to find where the sextants are stored because\n> the GPS says they are either in Hawaii or the Sahara Desert.\n> \n> 73s,\n> \n> Alan\n> WA4SCA\n> \n> \n> <-----Original Message-----\n> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Buxton\n> <Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 2:33 PM\n> <To: [email protected]\n> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> <\n> <Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD,\n> <too! :-D\n> <\n> <Jerry Buxton, NØJY\n> <\n> <On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote:\n> <> Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on\n> <> deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking\n> <> to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the\n> <> AMSAT Journal about a year from now.\n> <>\n> <>\n> <>\n> <\n> <_______________________________________________\n> <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 9\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:45:59 -0600\n> From: Glenn Anderson <[email protected]>\n> To: Jerry Buxton <[email protected]>, [email protected]\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\n> \n> Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ...\n> \n> -------- Original message --------\n> From: Jerry Buxton <[email protected]> \n> Date: 01/10/2016 14:33 (GMT-06:00) \n> To: [email protected] \n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! \n> \n> Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD,\n> too!??? :-D\n> \n> Jerry Buxton, N?JY\n> \n> On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote:\n> > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on\n> > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking\n> > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the\n> > AMSAT Journal about a year from now.\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 10\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:03:31 -0700\n> From: \"Ed Cunningham\" <[email protected]>\n> To: <[email protected]>\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT\n> Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n> Content-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=\"us-ascii\"\n> \n> Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and\n> must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is\n> registered in. You must also have permission from the company and the\n> captain of the ship. \n> \n> \n> \n> Ed, N7EC\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 11\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:16:50 -0500\n> From: Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]>\n> To: Ed Cunningham <[email protected]>\n> Cc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT\n> Message-ID:\n> \t<CABzOSOoiU=tFucAev75jtry4WzYDxMGQBW8jhpXhrt96nA-ZBA@mail.gmail.com>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n> \n> The Carnival Liberty is registered in Panama. An IARP will suffice and\n> those are easy to get.\n> \n> Carnival generally allows operating, but, of course we still need to get\n> permission from the Captain.\n> \n> 73,\n> \n> Paul, N8HM\n> \n> On Sunday, January 10, 2016, Ed Cunningham <[email protected]> wrote:\n> \n> > Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and\n> > must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is\n> > registered in. You must also have permission from the company and the\n> > captain of the ship.\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > Ed, N7EC\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected] <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open\n> > forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Message: 12\n> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:49:20 -0600\n> From: John Spasojevich <[email protected]>\n> To: Glenn Anderson <[email protected]>\n> Cc: Amsat - BBs <[email protected]>\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> Message-ID:\n> \t<CA+qbou60QQmMDbbkMz9RAsnDXtzqCyrj1kLRT_z5eV3QKM9DPw@mail.gmail.com>\n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n> \n> Hams....on a cruise ship....with an unlimited amount of food...... OMG!\n> \n> John AG9D\n> \n> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Glenn Anderson <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n> \n> > Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ...\n> >\n> > -------- Original message --------\n> > From: Jerry Buxton <[email protected]>\n> > Date: 01/10/2016 14:33 (GMT-06:00)\n> > To: [email protected]\n> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!\n> >\n> > Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD,\n> > too! :-D\n> >\n> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY\n> >\n> > On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote:\n> > > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on\n> > > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and\n> > talking\n> > > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for\n> > the\n> > > AMSAT Journal about a year from now.\n> > >\n> > >\n> > >\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> \n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> Subject: Digest Footer\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected].\n> AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> ------------------------------\n> \n> End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11\n> ****************************************\n\n", "attachments": [] }