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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/OKCQGH66SPZECAXX52QNC2UNY2PL3MCI/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "OKCQGH66SPZECAXX52QNC2UNY2PL3MCI", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/OKCQGH66SPZECAXX52QNC2UNY2PL3MCI/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "hans.bx2abt (a) msa.hinet.net", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Hans BX2ABT", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Falconsat-3 upload problem", "date": "2019-06-18T14:07:18Z", "parent": null, "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/UC6CDLLPIQY5WD4BKPARRYSHVKVSTFTM/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hello all,\n\nGot all your TESTING UPLOAD messages in loud and clear. My message to \nK4KDR didn't get send out. I'm still (re)searching about the cause of \nthis. Later......\n\nHans\n\nBX2ABT\n\n\nOn 06/18/2019 09:45 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:\n> Hi Hans,\n>\n> I was able to upload a message (to you!) on FS-3 last night/this \n> morning, fully automated. So the satellite is evidently behaving OK.\n>\n> Hope you get it figured out. Since I don't use Direwolf, sorry I \n> can't give any suggestions.\n>\n> 73,\n>\n> Mark N8MH\n>\n> At 08:07 AM 6/18/2019 +0800, Hans BX2ABT wrote:\n>\n>> I didn't write it directly, but I assumed from the description you \n>> would read that I indeed run full duplex (and to add to this: my \n>> system is Linux, not Windows). If not Direwolf will wait for a free \n>> window to throw out packets which will never happen because FS-3 is \n>> on all the time. No, everything is working, except for the problem I \n>> described before: all commands to the bird are heard and responded \n>> to, but uploading a message will fail.\n>>\n>> Desensing is also not the problem: got the appropriate filters in \n>> place for that. Cheers,\n>>\n>> Hans\n>>\n>> BX2ABT\n>>\n>> On 06/17/2019 10:52 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:\n>>> Hello Hans, I have not been working FS-3 recently, since the IC-9700 \n>>> will not do 9600 packet [iCom, please fix!!] :(   So I cannot \n>>> comment on recent uploads. However, to add to Bob's thoughts--are \n>>> you running full duplex?  It's critical. Also, is your transmit \n>>> signal desensitizing your receive signal?  That is important, too.Â\n>>>\n>>> In the next week or so I will change radios at my station so I can \n>>> again use FS-3.  I'll be better able to share current experiences \n>>> with you.\n>>>\n>>> 73,\n>>>\n>>> Mark N8MH\n>>>\n>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 9:19 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB \n>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:\n>>>\n>>> I'm not behind my shack computer right now, but I know that PSGS\n>>> and\n>>> Direwolf each have a TX delay. Are you referring to those maybe\n>>> being\n>>> too long? If so, then why are all other commands (DL and\n>>> directory\n>>> listings) giving me no problem?\n>>>\n>>> 73 de Hans\n>>>\n>>> BX2ABT\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> On 06/17/2019 08:53 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:\n>>> > I am no expert. But remember that your RF and all processing\n>>> has to\n>>> > be full duplex. The turn arround for packets in the\n>>> satellite is\n>>> > instantaneous.\n>>> > with no TXD delays. Bob\n>>> >\n>>> >\n>>> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:24 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB\n>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:\n>>> >\n>>> >   Up til now I have been successful in getting\n>>> PacSatGroundStation\n>>> >   (PSGS)\n>>> >   to work on receive. You can go here if you want to see\n>>> my setup:\n>>> >   http://bx2abt.com/main/Falconsat-3\n>>> <http://bx2abt.com/main/Falconsat-3> . I can hit FalconSat-3 with a\n>>> >   directory request or file download request and get an\n>>> immediate\n>>> >   response\n>>> >   and consequent downloads. Uploading is a different\n>>> story, however. I\n>>> >   have been able to get some messages uploaded, but it\n>>> was more by\n>>> >   chance.\n>>> >   Right now if I want to upload I seem to get into a loop\n>>> where PSGS\n>>> >   keeps\n>>> >   on sending out the same frame (I presume), then\n>>> disconnects, after\n>>> >   which\n>>> >   the whole cycle starts over again.\n>>> >\n>>> >    From the PSGS debugging info you can see that I am\n>>> successful in\n>>> >   logging into PFS3-12. My file gets a designated ID\n>>> (1f14 in this\n>>> >   case)\n>>> >   and is ready to be received. Then it uploads what I\n>>> presume is one\n>>> >   frame\n>>> >   (you can see this in Direwolf where the same chunk of\n>>> data is send\n>>> >   over\n>>> >   and over again) after which possibly the reason why\n>>> things don't\n>>> >   work:\n>>> >   \"ER_BODY_CHECK received while uploading:\n>>> >  Â\n>>> /home/hans/PacSatGroundData/FalconSat-3/BX2ABT17.txt.out\". The only\n>>> >   mention of ER_BODY_CHECK I can find on the internet is\n>>> that it is\n>>> >   sent\n>>> >   when the checksum on the file body fails. After that\n>>> the whole\n>>> >   sequence\n>>> >   starts again, so the message never gets uploaded and\n>>> out of the queue.\n>>> >\n>>> >   Does this problem lie with FalconSat-3, Direwolf or\n>>> PGSG, or\n>>> >   somewhere\n>>> >   else? Where is the checksum being made? This is my\n>>> first forray into\n>>> >   packet radio/PacSat, so I'm not an expert (yet). I\n>>> don't want to make\n>>> >   any (un)educated guesses, thus any help or hints are\n>>> appreciated.\n>>> >   Cheers,\n>>> >\n>>> >   Hans\n>>> >   BX2ABT\n>>> >\n>>> >\n>>> >\n>>> >   This is the output (with debugging turned on) of PSGS:\n>>> >\n>>> >   --------BEGIN-------\n>>> >   Open ABCD:\n>>> >   Ready to upload file: BX2ABT17.txt.out\n>>> >   B: 209908947.\n>>> >   U>>\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Open: Adding UP LINK Event: UL_CONNECT\n>>> >   PB: Empty..\n>>> >   I>>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT Ctrl: 0 Type: I Cmd PF: 0\n>>> NR: 0 NS: 0Â\n>>> >   5 2 cc\n>>> >   a7 fb 5c 4> SUCCESSFUL LOGIN to PFS3-12 by BX2ABT\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Open: Adding UP LINK Event: From:PFS3-12 to\n>>> BX2ABT Ctrl: 0\n>>> >   Type: I Cmd PF: 0 NR: 0 NS: 0 5 2 cc a7 fb 5c 4>\n>>> SUCCESSFUL\n>>> >   LOGIN to\n>>> >   PFS3-12 by BX2ABT\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Cmd Ok: Adding UP LINK Event: UL_REQUEST_UPLOAD\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Cmd Ok: UL_CMD: From:BX2ABT to PFS3-12 Ctrl: 0\n>>> Type: I\n>>> >   Cmd PF:\n>>> >   0 NR: 0 NS: 0 8 3 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0 UL CMD:\n>>> UPLOAD_CMD File: 1f14\n>>> >   Size: 331\n>>> >   S>>\n>>> >   I>>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT Ctrl: 22 Type: I Cmd PF: 0\n>>> NR: 1 NS: 1Â\n>>> >   8 4\n>>> >   14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0> Ready to receive file: 1f14 from\n>>> BX2ABT at\n>>> >   off: 817\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Waiting: Adding UP LINK Event: From:PFS3-12 to\n>>> BX2ABT\n>>> >   Ctrl: 22\n>>> >   Type: I Cmd PF: 0 NR: 1 NS: 1 8 4 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0\n>>> 0> Ready to\n>>> >   receive\n>>> >   file: 1f14 from BX2ABT at off: 817\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Waiting: UL_GO_RESP: From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT \n>>> Ctrl: 22\n>>> >   Type: I\n>>> >   Cmd PF: 0 NR: 1 NS: 1 8 4 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0> Ready\n>>> to receive\n>>> >   file:\n>>> >   1f14 from BX2ABT at off: 817\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Waiting: GO FILE>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT \n>>> Ctrl: 22 Type: I\n>>> >   Cmd\n>>> >   PF: 0 NR: 1 NS: 1 8 4 14 1f 0 0 31 3 0 0> Ready to\n>>> receive file:\n>>> >   1f14\n>>> >   from BX2ABT at off: 817\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Data: Adding UP LINK Event: UL_DATA_END\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Data: UL_DATA_END: UL_DATA_END\n>>> >   S>>\n>>> >   I>>From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT Ctrl: 44 Type: I Cmd PF: 0\n>>> NR: 2 NS: 2Â\n>>> >   1 7\n>>> >   10> UL NAK 16: ER_BODY_CHECK\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Data End: Adding UP LINK Event: From:PFS3-12\n>>> to BX2ABT\n>>> >   Ctrl: 44\n>>> >   Type: I Cmd PF: 0 NR: 2 NS: 2 1 7 10> UL NAK 16:\n>>> ER_BODY_CHECK\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Data End: UL_NAK_RESP: From:PFS3-12 to BX2ABT\n>>> Ctrl: 44\n>>> >   Type: I\n>>> >   Cmd PF: 0 NR: 2 NS: 2 1 7 10> UL NAK 16: ER_BODY_CHECK\n>>> >   NAK: ER_BODY_CHECK received while uploading:\n>>> >   /home/hans/PacSatGroundData/FalconSat-3/BX2ABT17.txt.out\n>>> >\n>>> >   TIME-1: PHT: uptime is 469/13:51:30. Time is Sat Jun\n>>> 08 12:19:29\n>>> >   2019.\n>>> >   U>>\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Idle: Adding UP LINK Event: UL_DISCONNECTED\n>>> >   DEBUG 3: Idle: Adding UP LINK Event: Open ABCD:\n>>> >   Open ABCD:\n>>> >   B: 209908947.\n>>> >   PB: Empty..\n>>> >   ---------END-------\n>>> >\n>>> >   This is what Direwolf's output is:\n>>> >\n>>> >   --------BEGIN-------\n>>> >   PFS3-1 audio level = 68(+118/-110)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-1>LSTAT:I P:0x13A8 o:0 l:31473 f:31529, d:1\n>>> st:4 e:26<0x0d>\n>>> >   Unknown APRS Data Type Indicator \"I\", Ambulance\n>>> >   [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(SABM cmd, p=1)\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-12 audio level = 69(+115/-111)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(UA res, f=0)\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-12 audio level = 70(+119/-110)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(I cmd, n(s)=0, n(r)=0, p=0,\n>>> >   pid=0xf0)<0x05><0x02>^<0xa8><0xfb>\\<0x04>\n>>> >   [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(I cmd, n(s)=16, n(r)=120, p=0,\n>>> >  Â\n>>> pid=0x08)<0x08><0x03><0x14><0x1f><0x00><0x00>1<0x03><0x00><0x00>\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-12 audio level = 70(+121/-110)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(RR res, n(r)=1, f=0)\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-12 audio level = 70(+121/-109)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(I cmd, n(s)=17, n(r)=120, p=0,\n>>> >  Â\n>>> pid=0x08)<0x04><0x14><0x1f><0x00><0x00><0xfe><0x00><0x00><0x00>\n>>> >   [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(I cmd, n(s)=1, n(r)=2, p=0,\n>>> >   pid=0xf0)<0xfe><0x00>\n>>> >   the internet server that you sent me a message on April\n>>> 11, but\n>>> >   unfortunately I never was able to download it. It took\n>>> a while to get\n>>> >   the transmitting part working, but now it does and I'm very\n>>> >   pleased to\n>>> >   be able to contact you via FS-3. Truly an amazin\n>>> >   [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(RR cmd, n(r)=2, p=1)\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-11 audio level = 65(+118/-109)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-11>PBLIST:PB: Empty.<0x0d>\n>>> >   Unknown APRS Data Type Indicator \"P\", Original Balloon\n>>> (think Ham b\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-12 audio level = 66(+117/-109)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(RR res, n(r)=1, f=1)\n>>> >   [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(I cmd, n(s)=33, n(r)=120, p=0,\n>>> >  Â\n>>> pid=0x08)<0x08><0x03><0x00><0x00><0x00><0x00>1<0x03><0x00><0x00>\n>>> >\n>>> >   PFS3-12 audio level = 74(+125/-111)  [NONE] |||||||||\n>>> >   [0.4] PFS3-12>BX2ABT:(DISC cmd, p=1)\n>>> >   [0L] BX2ABT>PFS3-12:(UA res, f=1)\n>>> >   --------END-------\n>>> >\n>>> >   _______________________________________________\n>>> >   Sent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>. AMSAT-NA\n>>> >   makes this open forum available\n>>> >   to all interested persons worldwide without requiring\n>>> membership.\n>>> >   Opinions expressed\n>>> >   are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the\n>>> official\n>>> >   views of AMSAT-NA.\n>>> >   Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur\n>>> satellite\n>>> >   program!\n>>> >   Subscription settings:\n>>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>> <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>\n>>> >\n>>>\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>.\n>>> AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring\n>>> membership. Opinions expressed\n>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official\n>>> views of AMSAT-NA.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur\n>>> satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings:\n>>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>> <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> -- \n>>> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]\n\n", "attachments": [] }