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        "address": "kevin (a) eaglecreekobservatory.org",
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    "sender_name": "Kevin Muenzler",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!!",
    "date": "2012-09-05T18:11:50Z",
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    "content": "I was watching a video a few weeks ago (YouTube I think) about putting\ncube-sats (\"triple-cube\") in geosynchronous orbit using ion power.  They\nwould be launched to the ISS, unpacked and released during an EVA.  They\nwould slowly spiral out over several months to a permanent orbit.  I'll see\nif I can find it again and post it here.\n\n\nKevin Muenzler, WB5RUE\nGrid-EL09uf\nEagle Creek Observatory\nhttp://www.eaglecreekobservatory.org\nI'd be unstoppable if it weren't for law enforcement and physics\n\n\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Bob- W7LRD\nSent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 12:37 PM\nTo: John Spasojevich\nCc: [email protected]\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!!\n\nI am resigned to the fact we will in all probability never see another AO-40\n(sobsob) unless one of us wins the lottery. We would call it the LRD bird\n(if I won). As far as putting one together on the ISS, we would have to send\na \"real\" ham to the ISS., to put it together. Remember they busted a antenna\non the last one. The best chance is from our DL friends with the AO-10/13\ntype frame. Untill then we will have to be content with what we have and\nwhen we have it. We can play around with interesting propulsion systems etc.\nI realize we have smart people in high places within various organizations,\nand trusting them is necessary. Finally if a HEO is ever on the horizon (pun\nintended), they will come in droves. \n73 Bob W7LRD \n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"John Spasojevich\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"Trevor .\" <[email protected]>\nCc: [email protected]\nSent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 9:40:09 AM\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! \n\nHow would it be assembled on ISS? You would have to build it on the ground,\ndocument every step, take it apart and rebuild it to be sure the assembly\ndocumentation is correct and then ship it up bit by bit. Meanwhile each crew\ntrains quite awhile on their respective increments aboard before they\nlaunch. So, you would have to hope you train the right crew to assemble it\nwhich means your upmass bits and pieces would have to make every launch they\nare scheduled for. Being a ham radio satellite what do you think the\npriority is should something more pressing come along? There goes your\ntrained crew, remember the broken antenna on ARISSat-1? The crew that\ndeployed it was not the crew that had been trained on the ground for that\ndeployment. Assembly of anything even remotely close to AO-40 aboard ISS is\nunrealistic. The best chance of getting a so called replacement for\nAO40 is to find a way to complete and launch P3D which is sitting on the\nground in Germany. Maybe they'd like to disassemble it, document it and work\nshipping it to ISS via ESA? \n\nJohn - AG9D \n\nOn Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Trevor . <[email protected]> wrote: \n\n> --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Kevin Muenzler <[email protected]>\n> wrote: \n> > It would be difficult to get some sort of rocket aboard the ISS now \n> > that the space shuttle missions are finished\n> \n> I doubt it was ever feasible, if I understand it correctly there are \n> even issues with shipping rechargable batteries up there let alone a\nrocket.\n> \n> Also with regards to ISS bear in mind buying astronauts time to do \n> anything would cost a fortune. They are employed by their respective \n> organizations to work up there.\n> \n> Getting CubeSat's to MEO or HEO will depend on developing propulsion, \n> fold-out solar panels, and even CubeSat directional antennas - I \n> wonder could a 2m 2 ele Yagi be incorporated into a 3U CubeSat ?\n> \n> 73 Trevor M5AKA\n> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. \n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. \nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! \nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n",
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