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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/PMVKUDPYM53JAH3ESXNJRHP2BDDC7NI4/?format=api",
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    "sender_name": "Dee",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb]  FW:  Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.",
    "date": "2011-02-22T01:28:37Z",
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    "content": " \n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Dee [mailto:[email protected]] \nSent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:26 PM\nTo: 'Tony Langdon'\nSubject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.\n\nAs with all HEO theories, we have to take this as one with a burden of\nexpenses.  My idea of a baseline is also an AO-10 or 13 type bird.\nPropulsion and getting a ride To the HEO orbit is very expensive.  AMSAT,\nwithout having help from other interested parties, cannot possibly meet\nexpenses on this.  With a ride offer from one of the launch facilities,\nSatellite enthusiasts could possibly raise enough money to get this to\nhappen.  ITAR is not helping this AMSAT group bonding to give this a chance.\nPlease let your wishes in this direction be known to any AMSAT people.  I\nhave been accused of having my own agenda for HEO birds.  Remember, we\ncannot possibly afford this (unless a rich uncle leaves us a sizable amount)\nand this is why our officers want to stress the present usable LEO birds as\nour foreseeable future. Have faith and maybe the status of launches will\nchange and all this will be a mute point.\n73,\nDee, NB2F\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Tony Langdon\nSent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:51 PM\nTo: Rocky Jones; [email protected]; [email protected]\nCc: Amsat BB\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.\n\nAt 04:11 AM 2/22/2011, Rocky Jones wrote:\n\n>My argument with AMSAT and others is that the organization should be \n>leading by pushing more linear devices AND birds with larger \n>footprints.  Where I think things got off track badly was with the \n>notion of AO-40...the theory that we had to build a satellite that \n>people could work \"worldwide\" with not much antenna and other \n>equipment.  Oscar 10 and 13  (along with Arsene) in my view is about \n>the baseline satellite that AMSAT should be building and trying to lead \n>the satellite movement.  As long as \"baseline\" satellite access is a \n>handitalkie with a long whip...we are not going to see much different \n>in my view nor should we expect it\n\nLinear birds are a good idea, and the idea of creating an \"off the shelf\"\ntransponder package that university groups can install into their projects\nhas been discussed here before, to help that end.  larger footprints would\nbe nice (and extremely useful in this part of the world), but the trick\nthere is getting the launch opportunities at an affordable price, since it\nseems most affordable launch opportunities are to LEO.  You can only place\nyour bird where the ride takes you, unless you add propulsion, which means\nextra weight and complexity (meaning more cost, fewer launch opportunities\nand higher risk of failure, and most likely fewer birds).\n\nOne of these days, I'll have a crack at the linear birds we have.  I have\nthe gear, just have to get around to using it! :)\n\n73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL\nhttp://vkradio.com\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n",
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