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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/PNMRM7G66EED6UVFKHVIG3ZRM4NTZED6/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "PNMRM7G66EED6UVFKHVIG3ZRM4NTZED6", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/NMDM4JBDME2YCW5ZDWQ3XT6WV74I7MMW/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "cwo4mann (a) comcast.net", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Dave Mann", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication\tsatellites)", "date": "2016-06-29T22:24:47Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/NMDM4JBDME2YCW5ZDWQ3XT6WV74I7MMW/?format=api", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Yes Mode K is very easy. I worked many RS QSO's in CW with no problems at all. Used two Kenwood TS-830's and a multi-band Fritzel Co. Wire antenna. Only problem for me was that I had to report ever QSO with a \"Soviet Bloc\" country to the G2 office. After a few weeks I just gave the spooks a copy of the logbook.\n\n73\nDave\nEx-DA1BB\n\n\nSent from my iPad\n\n> On Jun 29, 2016, at 15:50, Bryan KL7CN <[email protected]> wrote:\n> \n> Mode K is awesome!\n> \n> But, it seems more \"old style ham radio-y\" than using VHF/UHF gear -- big-ish gear, big antennas. I was thinking about how someone with a Raspberry Pi and a VHF/UHF module would use Mode K -- my HackerLab crowd.\n> \n> Like I said: Yay. More satellites.\n> \n> But I sure would like to see something more modern-feeling that would appeal to the Maker/DIY/Rasperry Pi crowd.\n> \n> But, see #1. :)\n> \n> -- bag\n> \n> Bryan KL7CN/W6\n> [email protected]\n> \n> On Jun 29, 2016, at 13:00, Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]> wrote:\n> \n> Mode K was pretty popular back with RS-12/13! The Doppler shift is\n> minimal enough at those frequencies that any normal HF transceiver in\n> split mode will work fine.\n> \n> The neat thing is the potential for subhorizon access to the satellite.\n> \n> 73,\n> \n> Paul, N8HM\n> \n>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Bryan Green <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> 1. Yay. More satellites.\n>> \n>> 2. HF? Really? Huh.\n>> \n>> 3. Net-net: see 1.\n>> \n>> -- bag\n>> \n>> Bryan KL7CN/W6\n>> [email protected]\n>> \n>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:28, Robert Bruninga <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> \n>>>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur\n>>>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.\n>>> \n>>>> Expand, please.\n>>> \n>>> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's\n>>> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether\n>>> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be\n>>> amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.\n>>> \n>>> Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m\n>>> and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.\n>>> FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth). Note, we CANNOT get\n>>> an \"Experimental license\" from the FCC, because it is true, that our\n>>> institution is Federal. But when our students build an Amateur\n>>> Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is\n>>> OPERATED.\n>>> \n>>> Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in\n>>> support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers\n>>> crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.\n>>> \n>>> To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental\n>>> satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS\n>>> with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.\n>>> \n>>> We walk a fine line... In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has\n>>> to have some educational value to DOD. In order for us to be able to\n>>> build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs\n>>> to be amateur. So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,\n>>> we NAILED-IT!\n>>> \n>>> The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite\n>>> Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF\n>>> satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite\n>>> Service where there will be plenty of \"users\" to exercise it.\n>>> \n>>> So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and\n>>> what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.\n>>> \n>>> Again, fingers crossed. This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.\n>>> \n>>> LESSON LEARNED: Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control\n>>> operator get involved in the paper work. He files the paperwork and he\n>>> takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.\n>>> \n>>> Bob, WB4APR\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> \n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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