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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/PS5GZGOLLRVD7X2WFSVPUDX55U2VD64Z/?format=api",
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    "message_id": "01ce01c83d9b$ee45b4b0$0b0a0a0a@RICK",
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        "address": "w2gps (a) cnssys.com",
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    "sender_name": "Rick Hambly (W2GPS)",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Putting The Cart Before The Horse",
    "date": "2007-12-13T15:22:10Z",
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    "content": "Fred,\n\nYou continue to insult me. I never attacked your \"intellectual capacity.\" I\nonly said you were not well informed.\n\nIf you would like to see a working SDR come to an AMSAT gathering. The delay\nin getting hardware that looks good is due to our reliance on volunteers,\nnot bad science or engineering. The fact that you don't believe in SDR\ntransponders doesn't make them any less real or practical.\n\nPhase 4 will use the same modules and payloads as Eagle (P3) there is no\ndifference.  The module housings you made were valuable as they proved that\nthe bent sheet metal approach would not work. It is too flexible. We will\nneed a milled baseplate. This is not a failure - it is part of the\nsuccessful evolution of a new design called Eagle. \n\nSome of us have donated huge amounts of our time to AMSAT and it is tiring\nto be attacked in public like this. It is unjustified and not consistent\nwith the facts. \n\nRick\nW2GPS\nAMSAT LM2232\n \n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Fred A Parker\nSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:50 AM\nTo: amsat-bb; Steve Carr; Brock Thomsen\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: Putting The Cart Before The Horse\n\nFirst in my original post I wanted to stimulate a debate on the feasibility\nof Phase 4.   I received to many e-mail's off line to count all afraid to\nsay anything on the bb.   Everyone supporting my opinion not one negative,\nthank you all for the support.   I did also receive emails from Rick Hambly\nand Robert McGuire attesting to my lack of intellectual capacity.  (attack\nthe messenger not the message) In his Email to me Mr. McQwier also\nchallenged me to submit a resolution to the BOD and he would second it.   My\nplans are to take him up on it.   I actually plan on submitting two off\nthem.\n  \n   First:  To form a committee of amateurs in and out of Amsat with\ntechnical skills to asses the viability of SDR.   The number one reason for\nthis is after three years I have not been able to find one instance where\nanyone has produced a working SDR transponder.   Second:   One night\nrecently while talking on two meter ssb to a local retired ham, a retired\ncollage professor with a PHD.    Who rights his own SDR software.   When\nexplaining what Amsat was trying to do his words were good luck.   If this\nSDR is such a good thing those behind it should welcome a full per review\nand prove me wrong.\n\n    Second:   To form a committee of hams to survey hams both in and out of\nAmsat on what they want in a future satellite.    With the goal of bringing\nin new hams for increasing membership in Amsat.\n\nThis is my opinion and I feel free to express it because over the last three\nyears I have donated at least $30,000.00 US dollars in CNC Machine shop work\nto Amsat. Especially to the Eagle project.   As I see it now the project\nactually has gone backward.  How would you feel if you spent a whole winter\nworking on the Eagle Module's pro bono and just because you did not agree\nwith something that your intelligence would be attacked.   I just got off\nEagle Pedia and could not find updated mechanical drawings as the old design\nhas been scrapped.   I want again to state this is my opinion.   It is my\nbelieve that Rick Hambly and his phase 4 are just a diversion to cover up\nhis past failures with the hardware and software for present projects.   How\ndoes Amsat realistically plan on paying for such a project that when I\nconfronted him via email that he did not deny would cost a minimum of $5\nmillion dollars.  As for the rest, it is being covered pretty well on this\nbb.\n\nFred\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n",
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