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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/PW3WT5W4NE5XLX3PR54OW5K6W4NJW5AV/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "PW3WT5W4NE5XLX3PR54OW5K6W4NJW5AV", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/RQBD3J37Q2WUFHIWLWJCK42F25FU3JPJ/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "bernd1peters (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "fbd20c4b6a0d42c687793f6575cb5927", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/fbd20c4b6a0d42c687793f6575cb5927/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "[email protected]", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna Location", "date": "2020-06-06T19:45:01Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/TCCUZXF5RRO36NJLX7SZK5D77ZRHXQ7A/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/TOX6XX2WE3ZU562LVHWBF2RSVKUL6TSZ/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "An indoors antenna would not work in my house. I took my Arrows antenna\ninside and I basically hear nothing. Even just behind a modern double pane\nwindow (I believe they have some polarization filters) you pretty much hear\nnothing.\n\n73,\nBernd - KB7AK\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rich Gopstein via\nAMSAT-BB\nSent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:55 AM\nTo: Floyd Rodgers <[email protected]>\nCc: [email protected]; satop <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna Location\n\nYeah, I was wondering about that. I guess I could do a simple RF\nattenuation test.\n\nRich\n\n\nOn Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:27 PM Floyd Rodgers via AMSAT-BB <\[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Many newer houses have foil backed plywood decking to block heat transfer.\n> That also blocks rf.\n>\n> Floyd KC5QBC\n>\n> > On Jun 5, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > Rich, the attic has always seemed like an attractive location to \n> > me, but I'd suggest before you go that route, do some reception \n> > checking. For example, see how well you receive one of the Foxes \n> > on an HT on the\n> ground\n> > outside, and then go to the attic and see how similar it is.\n> >\n> > For reasons unknown, the last time I tried this I was totally unable \n> > to\n> get\n> > ANYTHING in the attic, although I know some people have done well\nthere..\n> > I wonder if it relates to the spacing of the nails compared to the \n> > wavelength, or something about the particular mixture of material \n> > used in the shingles?\n> >\n> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:44 PM Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]>\n> > wrote:\n> >\n> >> I use a fiberglass mast by MGS for my M2 LEO antennas and G5500\nrotator.\n> >> Works fine.\n> >> You may not have enough room for the guy lines? I have expired HOA \n> >> covenants, the best kind!\n> >> Mine is up about 30-35 feet. PM me for details if you're interested.\n> >>\n> >> Bob W7OTJ\n> >>\n> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:08 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB < \n> >> [email protected]> wrote:\n> >>\n> >>> Thanks. I've gotten a number of responses ranging from:\n> >>> Put up a tower\n> >>> Put it in the attic\n> >>> Put it on a tripod on the roof\n> >>> And - yours - put it somewhere reasonable and don't freak out \n> >>> about the attenuation.\n> >>>\n> >>> The garage and the house both have 8/12 pitch roofs, so that's my\n> concern\n> >>> with mounting on the roof. I've done it before but I'm happy about\nit.\n> >>> The garage is lower, so less of a fall, but still steep.\n> >>>\n> >>> I might be able to get a small AZ/EL setup inside the attic above \n> >>> the garage. The issue there is my shack is on the exact opposite \n> >>> side of\n> the\n> >>> house. So, I'd most likely need to move the shack to the garage\nattic.\n> >>> There's power up there, but no insulation. Maybe I could put the\n> IC-9700\n> >>> there and remotely control it?\n> >>>\n> >>> I've thought about a tower... But there are so many tower options,\n> it's a\n> >>> little daunting. If I put the tower just outside where the shack \n> >>> is,\n> I'd\n> >>> need about 38' to clear the highest peak of the house roof. I \n> >>> could go lower and just live with a little extra attenuation from \n> >>> the house\n> roof.\n> >>> And I assume any tower would come with the need to deal with the \n> >>> local zoning/permit guys. If I go that route, I'd want the tower \n> >>> to be high enough to use as the center of a dipole also.\n> >>>\n> >>> Too many options...\n> >>>\n> >>> Rich\n> >>> KD2CQ\n> >>>\n> >>>\n> >>>\n> >>>\n> >>>\n> >>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:18 PM satop <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >>>>\n> >>>> Rich, my last location was worse than yours I believe. I lived \n> >>>> in an large city two story home with 9' ceilings and a large peak \n> >>>> roof,\n> think\n> >>>> 1903 style. There was a three story home on the east side and a \n> >>>> three story church on the west. Three very large oak trees in \n> >>>> the front and\n> >>> very\n> >>>> poor aim points to the north. I mounted my tripod on a one story \n> >>>> wood\n> >>> shed\n> >>>> on the north end of the home. I had about a 60' run of hardline \n> >>>> to\n> the\n> >>>> shack and used high gain yagi antennas for vhf/uhf. This setup \n> >>>> worked fantasy and always was amazing to me. I even pre \n> >>>> purchased a\n> Super-Amp\n> >>>> SP-7000 for UHF but never found that I needed it. Use some \n> >>>> antennas\n> >> with\n> >>>> some gain and I'll bet you'll be just fine mounting on the garage \n> >>>> or\n> >>> lower\n> >>>> build.\n> >>>>\n> >>>> Gary/N8AYY\n> >>>>\n> >>>>\n> >>>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.\n> >>>>\n> >>>>\n> >>> _______________________________________________\n> >>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum \n> >>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring\nmembership.\n> >> Opinions\n> >>> expressed\n> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official \n> >>> views\n> of\n> >>> AMSAT-NA.\n> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >> program!\n> >>> Subscription settings: \n> >>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. 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