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    "sender_name": "Graeme Nelson",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: presentation for hamfest",
    "date": "2008-03-16T07:53:29Z",
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    "content": "I totally agree with Mark: that is the sort of thing that those of us just \nstarting into the amateur satellite can benefit greatly from knowing.\n\nWhen I first started looking skyward shortly after getting my ham license (in \nAugust last year), what I read on contacting the ISS had me thinking I needed \na 2m rig with 25-50W RF output and a circular polarized cross-beam yagi \nantenna.  Imagine my surprise when a local ham I was talking with told me he \nhad worked the ISS using just a handheld!  I have since gotten my hands on 25W \nrigs but still no yagi: time and money are in very short supply for me at the \nmoment, so I have not been able to attain to a simple yagi, let alone a \ncomplex as specified on the ARISS web site.\n\nNow all I need to do to start into the exciting world of amateur satellite is \nto get co-ordinated with the birds that fly over my head!  Unfortunately, \nspare time is scarce, so co-ordinating for a contact may take a while...\n\nTTFN.,\nGraeme\nZL2GDN\n\n\nMark Vandewettering wrote:\n> On Mar 15, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Wayne Estes wrote:\n>> Bob Bruninga wrote:\n>> The #1 point I make at hamfests are:\n>> 1) You dont need special antennas\n>> 2) You dont need elevation rotators\n>> 3) You dont need tracking software\n>> 4) Just operate from your mobile FM or APRS rig anytime you are\n>> commuting or otherwise in the car.\n>>\n>> Wayne replies:\n>> I'm amused at your presumption that all hams have a mobile ham radio  \n>> and spend a great deal of time in their car.\n> \n> I think it's a fair guess that more of them have mobiles than have alt- \n> az rotors driving large antenna arrays.   Bob's point (and it's a good  \n> one) is that you don't need that kind of equipment to work satellites\n> and have fun, and it _is_ a message that bears repeating.\n> \n> If you look at The Radio Amateur's Satellite Handbook, you might not\n> even realize that you can work satellites that way.   It'll tell you  \n> all about helix antennas and stuff that you might be able to use on\n> birds which are no longer active, or which might be active in the\n> future, but really doesn't tell you very much about working FM birds\n> in the obvious, inexpensive and fun way that I enjoy: QRP with a\n> handheld Yagi. I've worked from Hawaii to Maine, Manitoba to Socoros\n> Island.  It's really a hoot.    I've also bounced APRS packets off\n> NO-44 and the ISS using just 5w into the mag mount whip on top\n> of my car.\n> \n> It's a blast.  It's gotten me excited about satellites.  It made me a  \n> member of AMSAT.\n> \n> Check out the ARRL handbook chapter on space communications.   You'll\n> see a great deal about satellites that no longer fly, and microwave  \n> modes that are only part time on AO-51.  It's really shameful that  \n> absolutely no mention of the fun of operating satellites mobile and\n> QRP is made in the premier publication of the ARRL.\n> \n> Bob's message is a good one: you probably _can_ work sats, without a\n> huge investment of time, without a fixed ground station, without  \n> computer controlled doppler, without 17 element antennas.   If anyone \n> is even faintly interested, they can do it.   I think they need to\n > hear that.\n> \n> \tMark KF6KYI\n",
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