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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QC3MKQW5XIVHYBYKJD52MXLNEHTFJDZY/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CAE1O4xqBmi7kuFSNYnTy-aBwEQAeU3DzE6kJhrySpzGgROs8wA@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "QC3MKQW5XIVHYBYKJD52MXLNEHTFJDZY", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/IZ5B6TSOOGFSMNE3R46D2RSKISARC7SY/", "sender": { "address": "pabutusa (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "2e5306de65144a3bbb838f0921c156f8", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/2e5306de65144a3bbb838f0921c156f8/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Rob", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: D STAR", "date": "2013-11-12T17:26:28Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/H7CFB2Z66W5ZA5ITR4VDASNJ4RL55GIF/", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/DZWVMC66AXI77ZO6LAPRNUW2WM3RPLB4/", "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QFMUW5C73K7XTLSYYBGI7UH5WMXSRF5T/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "I can do all that with my iphone .... which are the enhancements?\n\n\nOn Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Angelo Glorioso <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> \"To help the believer \" :-)\n>\n> Either you have not used Dstar before or have not used it\n> in a long time.\n>\n> Have your tried to send a picture with Dstar??\n>\n> Have you chatted voice and text as the same time??\n>\n> Have you tried to surf the web with DStar.\n>\n> Have you used DRats for Emergencies, trainings or other exercises ???\n>\n>\n> Just to mention a few things that add to the enhancement of the\n> radio art!!!!!!\n>\n> 7 3 de Angelo\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> ----- Original Message ----- From: \"Rob\" <[email protected]>\n> To: <[email protected]>\n> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:39 AM\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR\n>\n>\n> \"To help the non beleiver.. \"\n>>\n>> Well I guess it official ... it's now become a religious argument.\n>>\n>> D-STAR is the \"fast-food\" of amateur radio (much the same way repeaters\n>> are\n>> ... but I digress)\n>>\n>> I'm not arguing the technical merits .... but it does not enhance the\n>> radio\n>> art ... it does not promote innovation ...\n>>\n>> Sure you can buy a radio ... plug it in .... program it or what ever you\n>> need to do to get on \"the net\" and talk to someone .... you've learned\n>> nothing and you've given nothing back.\n>>\n>> The spectrum we use is very valuable .... if we're not generating any\n>> value\n>> for what we've been entrusted with it's going to be sold off to the\n>> highest\n>> bidder.\n>>\n>> We need more of this -> http://wc2fd.com/eaps/\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>\n>> On 11 Nov 2013 at 15:22, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:\n>>>\n>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:46:24AM -0600, damon runion wrote:\n>>> > > Well back in the days of AM and when SSB came out it was the same\n>>> > > thinking then BUT what has happened to AM . Same thing with DSTAR it\n>>> > > is growing and will grow . Thats what makes ham radio so much fun,\n>>> > > there is something for everyone\n>>> > > 73,s Damon\n>>> >\n>>> > But the difference there is that *anyone* can make an SSB rig. Only >\n>>> one\n>>> manufacturer is allowed to make AMBE codecs, and they will only sell to a\n>>> handful of approved radio manufacturers.\n>>> >\n>>> > It is illegal to make your own DStar radio, without buying the AMBE\n>>> codec from DVSI. That sort of thing has no place in amateur radio.\n>>> >\n>>> > --\n>>> > Gordonjcp MM0YEQ\n>>> >\n>>> > _______________________________________________\n>>> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the >\n>>> author.\n>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>> program!\n>>> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>\n>>> To help the non beleiver.. just read this:\n>>>\n>>> http://www.eham.net/articles/30174\n>>>\n>>> And yes telephone and satellite phone are available but if one choose to\n>>> use DSTAR it is relevant to discredit him? If you think something\n>>> has no place im amateur radio just don't use it and let those who wants\n>>> to\n>>> use it enjoy one of the most reliable digital communication\n>>> protocol available. Yes some will say DMR, MotoTRBO are better it's just\n>>> to say competition is already present.\n>>>\n>>> The cost question.\n>>> You can already interface a lot of recent HF transceiver to DSTAR for\n>>> 700$\n>>> and much less if you are technicaly inclined.See below it's just\n>>> an example and i'm not connected to their business.\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> http://dstarradioclub-international.com/dv-adapters-\n>>> --for-more-information--manual-links.html?success=1&\n>>> ucfid=510239683496259871&text=Thank+\n>>> you.+Your+information+has+been+submitted\n>>>\n>>> I don't know where this \"I don't use it and as i think it's not Ham radio\n>>> no one should use it\" trend come from but it's getting old...\n>>>\n>>> I'm an avid DSTAR user just put my call sing in your URCALL and you will\n>>> be able to reach me all over the globe. If you don't like the\n>>> internet component you better to go back to the cave man, or you don't\n>>> live on my planet.\n>>>\n>>> Just let folks live free...\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE\n>>> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>> program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>>\n>\n", "attachments": [] }