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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QII6NF5DLFYEMMOCKQRALTWCRFHKZOX7/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CA+0ZtTa=soEEm-xgxDiVuQogqKGtUM_2+gsLwRvQjLr=FG=45g@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "QII6NF5DLFYEMMOCKQRALTWCRFHKZOX7", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/YOY2QIJ3FWQO6C2WIQQYT3PUZHD5XTPC/", "sender": { "address": "mchambers (a) showmeham.info", "mailman_id": "4e06c350d89e4b92a8560cac11403563", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/4e06c350d89e4b92a8560cac11403563/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Matthew Chambers", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators", "date": "2020-03-19T20:00:57Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/M5JP52IAQMMPMFXMQ5M22QZIPODTLLYF/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "And using standardized phonetics is even better, I hear on HF all the time\ncalls that sound like \"Zanzibar Portugal Derkaderkastan\"\n\nMatthew Chambers, CBT, NR0Q\nOwner/Engineer\n*M Chambers Communications Engineering LLC*\nPO BOX 855, Moberly, MO 65270\nMobile (660)415-5620\nwww.mchambersradio.com\n\n\n\nOn Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:56 PM John Geiger via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> Using phonetics can really help also, especially if you have letters that\n> sound alike in your call, such as T and D.\n>\n> 73 John W5TD\n>\n> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:40 PM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]>\n> wrote:\n>\n> > All,\n> >\n> > There is another practice that I have not seen addressed here that makes\n> > thing really tough - talking way too fast. I understand the reason but\n> > fast talking just leads to the request for repeats which means more\n> traffic\n> > and/or busted Q's. So in addition to turn down the power how about\n> > talking just a little slowly and more clearly?\n> >\n> > Just a suggestion.\n> >\n> > John K4SQC\n> >\n> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:03 PM Isaac C via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]\n> >\n> > wrote:\n> >\n> > > ps -. it was SO-50, pass 11:58 local time, Mar 12.\n> > >\n> > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Isaac C <[email protected]> wrote:\n> > >\n> > > > Mike,\n> > > > I am Isaac, W4ITC, grid FM14.\n> > > > I am maybe two weeks ahead of you in the newbie category. I just got\n> my\n> > > > first QSO/QSL on March 12.\n> > > > I connected with W0NBC.\n> > > > After me, you can hear WB3CSY do an expert connection with someone\n> > else.\n> > > > I listened to many passed before I was brave enough to talk. It\n> > probably\n> > > > shows.\n> > > > My rig is qty 2 Baofengs @ 5w with a WA5VJB home-made antenna.\n> > > >\n> > > > Best luck.\n> > > >\n> > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YSF3hL6NBtRMkcw3gDcx8VURQ3dB\n> > > > UNl/view?usp=drivesdk\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Mike Wilhelm via AMSAT-BB <\n> > > [email protected]>\n> > > > wrote:\n> > > >\n> > > >> I've been collecting equipment and waiting for the right time to try\n> > and\n> > > >> get on a bird. Life is too busy...\n> > > >> Anyway, it might be helpful if there were a few audio examples we\n> > could\n> > > >> pass on to newbies and uninformed operators of good and bad\n> operating.\n> > > I\n> > > >> would recommend beeping out any parts of the call sign for any\n> > examples\n> > > of\n> > > >> poor operation. I'd sure like to hear them. Maybe even post them\n> to\n> > a\n> > > >> section on the AMSAT page covering operating? I apologize if this\n> is\n> > > >> already out there...back to that too busy thing again. I haven't\n> had\n> > > many\n> > > >> opportunities to take my FT-470 outside with my Arrow and chase a\n> > bird.\n> > > >> The QSOs I've heard seem like they go so fast and I'd hate to annoy\n> > > anyone\n> > > >> by being the slowpoke.\n> > > >> 73! Mike AF5AT\n> > > >>\n> > > >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:52 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <\n> > > >> [email protected]>\n> > > >> wrote:\n> > > >>\n> > > >> > I am a minimalist because I want to be a minimalist. I understand\n> > that\n> > > >> the\n> > > >> > FM bird is nothing more than a repeater and the strongest signal\n> > takes\n> > > >> the\n> > > >> > bird, even if someone else is talking. \"Someone else is talking\"\n> is\n> > > the\n> > > >> > rude part. Last weekend, I was chasing a rover and got \"KC9\" out\n> and\n> > > >> into\n> > > >> > the bird (I work full duplux, so know that I was in) and someone\n> > took\n> > > >> over\n> > > >> > by stepping on me. Luckily, I got him anyway, but someone was high\n> > > power\n> > > >> > and more important than me. That's the way contesters work. But, I\n> > > don't\n> > > >> > want to plaster someone's call on the board. I just hope that the\n> > > >> person is\n> > > >> > a member and thinks about it. Getting into a peeing contest with\n> > > >> someone is\n> > > >> > not beneficial to anybody, including the hobby. It used to be that\n> > if\n> > > >> one\n> > > >> > said \"handheld\" or \"portable\" guys would give them a break, but\n> that\n> > > >> > doesn't happen anymore. The birds are too crowded for that. There\n> > are\n> > > >> > several people in my ham clubs that want to try satellite\n> operation\n> > > and\n> > > >> > myself and my friend Rick (WA9JBQ) loves to\n> > > >> > mentor them and teach them the proper way to operate. Not\n> everyone\n> > > has\n> > > >> > this benefit. I don't know what the answer is. Last Spring one ham\n> > was\n> > > >> an\n> > > >> > extremely poor operator on the birds, but is now a better\n> operator.\n> > > So,\n> > > >> > something works. But there is always the tendency to crank up the\n> > > power\n> > > >> to\n> > > >> > get the station that you want, if you have the power available. It\n> > is\n> > > >> like\n> > > >> > guys who I know that run 1,500 watts on FT8 to get what they\n> want. I\n> > > >> guess\n> > > >> > it is going to happen and we have to live with that fact.\n> > > >> >\n> > > >> > As soon as I solve my equipment problem with my 847 and the\n> weather\n> > > >> turns\n> > > >> > warmer, I will be back on the linear birds. I sure do miss FO-29.\n> > Brad\n> > > >> > KC9UQR\n> > > >> > _______________________________________________\n> > > >> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum\n> > available\n> > > >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > > >> Opinions\n> > > >> > expressed\n> > > >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official\n> > views\n> > > of\n> > > >> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > > >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > > >> program!\n> > > >> > Subscription settings:\n> > > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > > >> >\n> > > >> _______________________________________________\n> > > >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum\n> available\n> > > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > > >> Opinions expressed\n> > > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official\n> views\n> > of\n> > > >> AMSAT-NA.\n> > > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > > program!\n> > > >> Subscription settings:\n> > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > > >>\n> > > >\n> > > _______________________________________________\n> > > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > Opinions\n> > > expressed\n> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views\n> of\n> > > AMSAT-NA.\n> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > program!\n> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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