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        "address": "bill (a) hsmicrowave.com",
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    "sender_name": "Bill Ress",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Usage - 2012",
    "date": "2012-08-28T18:01:21Z",
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    "content": "Nicely put John and thanks for putting the time into composing and \nposting it.\n\nRegards...Bill - N6GHz\n\nOn 8/28/2012 10:10 AM, John Papay wrote:\n> The Funcube Dongle postings veered off into a\n> discussion of the current state of affairs with\n> the satellites that are still working. After reading\n> about how the activity on the linear birds was down, I\n> had to wonder a bit. It has not been my experience.\n>\n> I really expected the activity on the FM birds to diminish when AO-51\n> died. We only get 7 minutes of AO-27 and that doesn't make\n> up for the much longer passes on AO-51. SO-50 has never been\n> off the air since I started in 2006 but it is the most difficult\n> to hear throughout the pass. For that reason, activity on SO-50\n> was fairly low. If you can't hear it, you can't work it. But\n> to my surprise, SO-50 activity dramatically increased when AO-51\n> went silent. Those who work the FM birds became determined to\n> work through this satellite despite the difficulties in hearing it.\n> Of course, if you are not full duplex, you don't know when you are\n> hearing the bird and that sometimes results in those who call but\n> cannot hear the responses. They might assume that there is no activity\n> on the bird when in fact there are many stations trying to make qso's.\n>\n> I started using the ssb birds in late November 2007. There wasn't much\n> activity on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52 at that time. But over the last two\n> years, activity on the linear birds has steadily increased. Much of the\n> increase can be attributed to the newer people who started on the FM birds\n> and quickly decided to get involved with the linear birds. I think the\n> availability of satellite capable radios has really helped. If you have\n> a TS2000 you can be on a linear bird without much effort. They are easier\n> to hear than an FM bird. Some are using a pair of radios to achieve full\n> duplex with great success. And I highly recommend SatPC32 which I have used\n> now since 2006. It runs 24x7 on a Vista Quad machine and doesn't crash. The\n> recordings on my website were made possible using the auto multi-satellite\n> tracking feature of this program. Recordings are made without any outside\n> intervention.\n>\n> One of the things that powers DX on the HF bands are dxpeditions. Groups\n> spend large amounts of money to travel to destinations all over the world\n> so that others can put that country in the worked/confirmed column. With\n> satellites today it's the VUCC award that drives the activity. When someone\n> shows up from a rare grid, the birds are sometimes overwhelmed. ND9M has\n> worked from hundreds of USA grids and has also worked from his ship on the\n> linear birds. UT1FG/mm has been very active over the past three\n> years and has created pileups on the ssb birds not unlike those on HF. To\n> say the activity is down on the linear birds in recent years is simply\n> incorrect. And more hams are operating satellites away from home than ever\n> before. You work with what you have and make the best of it, fm or linear.\n>\n> The future of AMSAT and the satellite phase of our hobby is all about the\n> new people. When you hear someone new on the bird and it's a noisy signal\n> with an incomplete callsign, maybe without phonetics, call that station.\n> Giving out that first contact with a newbie far outweighs 100 contacts with\n> those that you have worked many times before. Sometimes the effort doesn't\n> result in a qso, but maybe there is a possibility to follow up with an\n> email or postcard with an offer of help. Just remember we all started out\n> at some point with no experience. Most everyone can remember their first\n> contact and how important it was in terms of encouraging future operating.\n>\n> So if you're reading the AMSAT-bb and are discouraged by the fact that\n> there\n> are no High Earth Orbit Satellites, don't be. Times change, technology\n> changes but we continue by using what we have to the max and working\n> towards\n> improving our situation where we can. AMSAT works very hard to explore\n> every possibility for building and launching new satellites. It's a\n> tremendous\n> effort that most of us don't realize is happening day after day. We all\n> need to support this effort. FOX I and II will be here before we know it.\n> These birds should give us some room for more qso's and new operators.\n>\n> In the meantime, AO-7 continues to work at an altitude of 1450KM. FO-29 is\n> at 1200 or 1300 KM some of the time. These birds provide an opportunity to\n> work DX if you can see down to the horizon. If you can't, you can always\n> go to a location that is better and use your FT817 with an Arrow antenna\n> and work down to the horizon. There is nothing wrong with using an Arrow\n> or ELK antenna to work DX. WD9EWK has proven that point time after time.\n>\n> A good ham radio operator is one that looks at a problem as a challenge\n> rather than a show stopper. Ham radio ingenuity over the years has been\n> amazing. So if you are having trouble and are frustrated, develop an\n> action plan to move forward. The resources available to us today are\n> unprecedented. And there are mentors out there that are willing to help.\n> Above all, stay positive and have some fun!\n>\n> 73,\n> John K8YSE\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n\n-- \nRegards...Bill Ress\nHigh Sierra Microwave\n",
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