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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QTWYMYE2OYWVQTOWFBO3JA3Q2RA7Z7VE/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CAE1O4xp3JoiFpdRMeKwNp-RFP-Em6=jiuwk1DpW_0T8yjU+s6w@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "QTWYMYE2OYWVQTOWFBO3JA3Q2RA7Z7VE", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/VMXF5IXOPLBWWR74BD74JG7XP5GZ6AWQ/", "sender": { "address": "pabutusa (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "2e5306de65144a3bbb838f0921c156f8", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/2e5306de65144a3bbb838f0921c156f8/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Rob", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: D STAR", "date": "2013-11-12T20:58:04Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/VMXF5IXOPLBWWR74BD74JG7XP5GZ6AWQ/", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/2BQT57C3MBB4GSJIUGBBJ7SARFANLW3U/", "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/MKVTQTWTDEFBQ75SN7WA53BEX66DRSNV/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "If I can't duplicate the codec .... understand the codec ... improve the\ncodec ... whether a ham developed it or not is irrelevant.\n\n\n\nOn Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Angelo Glorioso <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n>\n>\n> Last question. Do you know for a fact that\n> the AMBE codecs was not developed by\n> a ham radio operator for that company???\n> A lot of hams are in that business.\n>\n> 7 3 de Angelo\n>\n>\n>\n> ----- Original Message ----- From: \"Rob\" <[email protected]>\n>> To: <[email protected]>\n>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:16 PM\n>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR\n>>\n>>\n>> An example of an enhancement to the radio art would be PSK31 for example.\n>>>\n>>> Created by an amateur radio operator used by amateur radio operators. An\n>>> amazing technology for weak signal work. Multiple conversations tacking\n>>> place in a single SSB \"channel.\"\n>>>\n>>> Don't misinterpret what I'm saying ... D-STAR is neat .... but if I (or\n>>> someone smarter than me) can't fabricate it from core technologies it\n>>> can't\n>>> be fully understood or improved upon. Which is what this hobby is suppose\n>>> to be about.\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Angelo Glorioso <[email protected]>\n>>> wrote:\n>>>\n>>> Sorry. I thought we were comparing apples with apples.\n>>>>\n>>>> PS: By the way, apple (big brother is watching you ) :-)\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: \"Rob\" <[email protected]>\n>>>> To: <[email protected]>\n>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:26 AM\n>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> I can do all that with my iphone .... which are the enhancements?\n>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Angelo Glorioso <[email protected]>\n>>>>> wrote:\n>>>>>\n>>>>> \"To help the believer \" :-)\n>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Either you have not used Dstar before or have not used it\n>>>>>> in a long time.\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Have your tried to send a picture with Dstar??\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Have you chatted voice and text as the same time??\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Have you tried to surf the web with DStar.\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Have you used DRats for Emergencies, trainings or other exercises ???\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Just to mention a few things that add to the enhancement of the\n>>>>>> radio art!!!!!!\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> 7 3 de Angelo\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: \"Rob\" <[email protected]>\n>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>\n>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:39 AM\n>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> \"To help the non beleiver.. \"\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Well I guess it official ... it's now become a religious argument.\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> D-STAR is the \"fast-food\" of amateur radio (much the same way\n>>>>>>> repeaters\n>>>>>>> are\n>>>>>>> ... but I digress)\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> I'm not arguing the technical merits .... but it does not enhance the\n>>>>>>> radio\n>>>>>>> art ... it does not promote innovation ...\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Sure you can buy a radio ... plug it in .... program it or what ever\n>>>>>>> you\n>>>>>>> need to do to get on \"the net\" and talk to someone .... you've\n>>>>>>> learned\n>>>>>>> nothing and you've given nothing back.\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> The spectrum we use is very valuable .... if we're not generating any\n>>>>>>> value\n>>>>>>> for what we've been entrusted with it's going to be sold off to the\n>>>>>>> highest\n>>>>>>> bidder.\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> We need more of this -> http://wc2fd.com/eaps/\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2013 at 15:22, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:46:24AM -0600, damon runion wrote:\n>>>>>>>> > > Well back in the days of AM and when SSB came out it was the >\n>>>>>>>> > same\n>>>>>>>> > > thinking then BUT what has happened to AM . Same thing with > >\n>>>>>>>> DSTAR\n>>>>>>>> > > it\n>>>>>>>> > > is growing and will grow . Thats what makes ham radio so much >\n>>>>>>>> > fun,\n>>>>>>>> > > there is something for everyone\n>>>>>>>> > > 73,s Damon\n>>>>>>>> >\n>>>>>>>> > But the difference there is that *anyone* can make an SSB rig. >\n>>>>>>>> Only\n>>>>>>>> > >\n>>>>>>>> one\n>>>>>>>> manufacturer is allowed to make AMBE codecs, and they will only sell\n>>>>>>>> to a\n>>>>>>>> handful of approved radio manufacturers.\n>>>>>>>> >\n>>>>>>>> > It is illegal to make your own DStar radio, without buying the >\n>>>>>>>> AMBE\n>>>>>>>> codec from DVSI. That sort of thing has no place in amateur radio.\n>>>>>>>> >\n>>>>>>>> > --\n>>>>>>>> > Gordonjcp MM0YEQ\n>>>>>>>> >\n>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________\n>>>>>>>> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the\n>>>>>>>> >\n>>>>>>>> author.\n>>>>>>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>>>>>> program!\n>>>>>>>> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> To help the non beleiver.. just read this:\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> http://www.eham.net/articles/30174\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> And yes telephone and satellite phone are available but if one\n>>>>>>>> choose\n>>>>>>>> to\n>>>>>>>> use DSTAR it is relevant to discredit him? If you think something\n>>>>>>>> has no place im amateur radio just don't use it and let those who\n>>>>>>>> wants\n>>>>>>>> to\n>>>>>>>> use it enjoy one of the most reliable digital communication\n>>>>>>>> protocol available. Yes some will say DMR, MotoTRBO are better it's\n>>>>>>>> just\n>>>>>>>> to say competition is already present.\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> The cost question.\n>>>>>>>> You can already interface a lot of recent HF transceiver to DSTAR\n>>>>>>>> for\n>>>>>>>> 700$\n>>>>>>>> and much less if you are technicaly inclined.See below it's just\n>>>>>>>> an example and i'm not connected to their business.\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> http://dstarradioclub-international.com/dv-adapters-\n>>>>>>>> --for-more-information--manual-links.html?success=1&\n>>>>>>>> ucfid=510239683496259871&text=Thank+\n>>>>>>>> you.+Your+information+has+been+submitted\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> I don't know where this \"I don't use it and as i think it's not Ham\n>>>>>>>> radio\n>>>>>>>> no one should use it\" trend come from but it's getting old...\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> I'm an avid DSTAR user just put my call sing in your URCALL and you\n>>>>>>>> will\n>>>>>>>> be able to reach me all over the globe. If you don't like the\n>>>>>>>> internet component you better to go back to the cave man, or you\n>>>>>>>> don't\n>>>>>>>> live on my planet.\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> Just let folks live free...\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE\n>>>>>>>> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>>>>>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the\n>>>>>>>> author.\n>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>>>>>> program!\n>>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the\n>>>>>>> author.\n>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>>>>> program!\n>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>>>>>\n>>>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the\n>>>>> author.\n>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>>> program!\n>>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>> program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>\n>>>\n>>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n", "attachments": [] }