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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QVCVQAYRC7PDIFCUJD5G6CFPPTNF2AUA/?format=api",
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        "address": "ve4yz (a) mts.net",
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    "sender_name": "Alan VE4YZ",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: volunteering (Mobile Satellite PAPER Predictor)",
    "date": "2009-10-20T20:36:34Z",
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    "content": "http://ibcnu.us/ APRS on the iPhone \n\nhttp://www.apptism.com/apps?query=prosat  sat tracking on the iPhone\n\n \n\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: [email protected] \n> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Daniels\n> Sent: October 20, 2009 2:59 PM\n> To: [email protected]\n> Cc: [email protected]\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: volunteering (Mobile Satellite PAPER \n> Predictor)\n> \n> Hi Bob,\n> I think the following site does pretty much what you are \n> asking http://www.heavens-above.com/\n> \n> If you register there and input your location one of the \n> options is to display a list of Amateur Satellites for a 24 \n> hour period. It does list all passes and not just the best. \n> You can use the next button to select the following days. The \n> site developer Chris Peat is very helpful, I am sure he could \n> tweak the page to better suite our needs\n> \n> Steve\n> G6UIM\n> \n> \n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:[email protected]]\n> Sent: 20 October 2009 18:06\n> To: [email protected]; 'Steve Daniels'; [email protected]\n> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: volunteering (Mobile Satellite \n> PAPER Predictor)\n> \n> Actually, There is another similar WEB page project That does \n> the same thing for ALL mobile operators, Not just those with \n> APRS displays.  It is simpler And only has a single TEXT output:\n> \n> Please see the idea on this web page:\n> http://www.aprs.org/MobileLEOtracking.html\n> \n> PROJECT OBJECTIVE:  Develop a web page that any amateur radio \n> operator can go to that will print out this very simple PAPER \n> tracking device.  It is just a piece of paper with 5 columns \n> for each of 5 days, and on each of those five days, the TIME \n> of the best overhead pass for that users local area (morning \n> and evening).  For ECHO (AO51) this simple piece of paper \n> with 10 times on it can be used for SHOWING the pass times of \n> ALL morning and evening passes for the next 2 or 3 months!  \n> \n> You don't need no stinkin computer to always know when AO51 \n> is overhead while you are mobile!  Just look at the TIME on \n> the paper for today's date. (ECHO's pass times repeat every 5 \n> days)...  Each other satellite has similar REPEATABILITY.  \n> Just pring one of these slips of papwer for your favorite \n> satellite, and you will never need to do a prediciton again, \n> yet, will always hve what you need in the car to predict each \n> day's pass times.\n> \n> Bob, WB4APR\n> \n> \n>  \n> \n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: [email protected]\n> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert\n> Bruninga\n> > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:56 PM\n> > To: 'Steve Daniels'; [email protected]\n> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: volunteering (Mobile Satellite\n> Predictor)\n> > \n> > > I would like to volunteer to help out in whatever \n> capacity I can. I \n> > > run my own web server built by myself and a few websites.\n> > \n> > Seeing your message, caused me to stop and think, what is the next \n> > thing I think might be valuable to help the general\n> amateur\n> > radio operators to better operate the satellites?  Again, \n> this might \n> > not be at all what you are interested in, but let me\n> have\n> > a go at defining a nice project for someone in case this \n> fits anyone's \n> > talents.\n> > \n> > PROBLEM:  To play satellites, you need to have a tracking \n> program and \n> > to WATCH it all the time or do PLANNING to know\n> when\n> > to go play satellites.  Actually, this is so... Past decade.\n> > \n> > OBJECTIVE:  What we need is a \"service\" that continuously\n> feeds\n> > SAT-IN-VIEW information to everyone in the field right there\n> on\n> > their radio front panel, whenever any AMSAT is in view.  \n> This way, you \n> > can be mobile, or hiking, or anywhere on the planet, and \n> right their \n> > even without ASKING, the information will be PUSHED to you.\n> > \n> > SOLUTION:  Actually, this capability has existed since about\n> > 1997 on the APRS channel, but it only works where a LOCAL \n> individual \n> > runs either APRSdata or DIGI_NED in the local\n> region,\n> > and maintains it.  In this case, mobiles, or anyone monitoring the \n> > national APRS channel will receive this INSTANT\n> information\n> > not only showing any SAT in view, but also its AZIMUTH, \n> ELEVATION and \n> > FREQUENCY of both the uplink and downlink AND DOPPLER!\n> > \n> > You can see examples of this system on \n> > http://www.aprs.org/localinfo.html .  Move your slider about\n> 90%\n> > down the page and look for the paragraph LOCAL SATELLITE\n> ALERTS.\n> > \n> > This way you don't need any PC, or anything.  But if you are mobile \n> > and if a satellite comes above the horizon in your\n> area,\n> > and you monitor APRS on your APRS mobile radio, then you will\n> be\n> > able to work the satellite (also mobile, since we only output the \n> > satellites that are easy to work from a mobile)...  The\n> info\n> > on the satellite is updated once each minute when it is above the \n> > horizon.\n> > \n> > Also, once each TEN minutes a SCHEDULE of any satellites\n> coming\n> > up in the next 80 minutes is transmitted to the DX LIST inside your \n> > radio, so you can also check for any future passes.\n> > \n> > PROJECT:  Rather than having to have 1000 volunteers all over the \n> > world, one in the footprint of every APRS local area have\n> to\n> > operate and maintain one of these programs (which is why \n> most people \n> > never see these alerts), it would be nice if there was just ONE \n> > central server that fed this data everywhere.  Then only one person \n> > would have to update the server when new satellites were \n> launched and \n> > once every week or so to download new TLE element sets.\n> > \n> > ISSUES:  In one sense this would be a great step forward, in \n> > centralizing the generation of this data.  But the problem \n> is, that it \n> > still will not go from the APRS-internet stream back\n> to\n> > local RF in each local area, unless a local Igate operator\n> adds\n> > the \"server\" to his gate-to-RF list.  But at least that is\n> much\n> > simpler than having to maintain a program.\n> > Local AMSAT mobiles who want this feed, just ask their local Igate \n> > operator to add the server, and from then on, whenever mobile, they \n> > will see these alerts.\n> > \n> > RESULT:  Every mobile everywhere that is in view of a\n> satellite,\n> > even without any prior planning, will be alerted to a\n> satellite\n> > in view, its direction and elevation, its frequency and its \n> Doppler, \n> > right there on the front panel of his APRS radio.\n> > \n> > See the web page for what these displays look like on an APRS\n> > radio:\n> > \n> > Bob, WB4APR\n> > \n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the \n> > author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n> > program!\n> > Subscription settings:\n> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of \n> the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur \n> satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n\n",
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