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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/R3Q6WO3MYXSCRAX4CVPMUWIDHKGMOUHY/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "DM5PR14MB1786395FE37F1DB8DADCD0588F880@DM5PR14MB1786.namprd14.prod.outlook.com", "message_id_hash": "R3Q6WO3MYXSCRAX4CVPMUWIDHKGMOUHY", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/R3Q6WO3MYXSCRAX4CVPMUWIDHKGMOUHY/", "sender": { "address": "lu3emb (a) hotmail.com", "mailman_id": "58e35adc2c504619ac949d3b93b3b0d3", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/58e35adc2c504619ac949d3b93b3b0d3/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Miguel Angel Baldonado", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Circular Polarization vs. Preamps", "date": "2016-11-26T13:10:24Z", "parent": null, "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hi Fred\r\n\r\nThere is nothing better than circular polarization for fixed antenna systems.\r\nI have worked many satellites with fixed antenna in elevation (35 degrees) but only I could do well with the SSB.\r\n\r\nI can only work with FMs when installing circular polarization antennas with the possibility of changing their sense (LHCP / RHCP) and installing low noise preamplifiers (AR2)\r\n\r\n73 to all\r\n\r\nMike\r\nLU3EMB\r\n\r\nObtener Outlook para Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nOn Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 3:36 AM -0300, \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:\r\n\r\n\r\nSend AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to\r\n [email protected]\r\n\r\nTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\r\n http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\r\nor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\r\n [email protected]\r\n\r\nYou can reach the person managing the list at\r\n [email protected]\r\n\r\nWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific\r\nthan \"Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest...\"\r\n\r\n\r\nToday's Topics:\r\n\r\n 1. Circular Polarization vs. Preamps (Fred Castello)\r\n 2. AMSAT SYMPOSIUM (jeffory broughton)\r\n 3. LilacSat-2 FM was on for a little bit tonight (Clayton Coleman)\r\n 4. Great White North Grid Expedition Schedule for Saturday\r\n (Ken Alexander)\r\n 5. Re: AMSAT Symposium (Ted)\r\n 6. Re: Circular Polarization vs. Preamps (Stefan Wagener)\r\n 7. HO-68 CW Beacon heard (Pedro Converso)\r\n 8. Re: HO-68 CW Beacon heard (Scott)\r\n 9. Re: HO-68 CW Beacon heard (Pedro Converso)\r\n 10. AMSAT Symposium (Clint Bradford)\r\n 11. AMSAT Symposium (Clint Bradford)\r\n 12. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-11-26 07:00 UTC\r\n ([email protected])\r\n\r\n\r\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 1\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 18:12:03 -0500\r\nFrom: Fred Castello\r\nTo: AMSAT bbs\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Circular Polarization vs. Preamps\r\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\r\n\r\nFolks,\r\n\r\nI have now finally become active again on some of the satellites with a handheld Arrow and my bulky but beloved Kenwood TS-790A. See my QRZ page for picture of how I have it setup outside when I operate. I am trying to put together a more permanent antenna system within my budget. I have been rather surprised how much fade is apparent in some of the birds which responds usually to some degree by twisting the axis of the Arrow antenna. So, my question is as follows:\r\n\r\nWould you rather have:\r\n\r\nA) The ability to switch polarization, presumably from RHCP to LHCP (or maybe even vertical to horizontal)? Unfortunately my research shows to date that this option is still rather expensive. Any suggestions on how to achieve this on a modest budget would be appreciated.\r\n\r\n OR\r\n\r\nB) A reasonable preamp on both 2 meters and 70 cm? (I have never worked with a preamp yet-though I have ordered the \"Original Broadband Satellite RX Preamp? from the AMSAT store and plan on using that and switching it manually depending on what bird I am using into the receive side).\r\nFor information, I will have about 70 feet of feedline.\r\n\r\nAssuming that one cannot have both.\r\nAs usual, I really appreciate your time and input.\r\nBest,\r\nFred-KF4FC\r\nFishersville, VA\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 2\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 18:30:21 -0500\r\nFrom: jeffory broughton\r\nTo: [email protected]\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT SYMPOSIUM\r\nMessage-ID:\r\n\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\n\r\nLast year's symposium:\r\nAttend presentationa all day\r\nHave dinner\r\nGo home\r\nThis year's SYMPOSIUM :\r\nDAY ONE:\r\nAttend presentations all day\r\nHave DINNER\r\nDAY TWO:\r\nSpend the entire next day off ship at a resort eating,drinking,getting a\r\nmassage.\r\nBack to the shop trying to decide which one or all of the 22 resturants to\r\ngo to.\r\nGo to the comedy club.\r\nWin some money at the casino.\r\nMeet in small groups every evening to talk about the hobby we love so much.\r\nSmall groups meet all over the ship evening to talk about the hobby we love\r\nso much\r\nOperate your portable satellite station\r\n>From rare grids EVERY DAY !\r\nDAY THREE:\r\nREPEATE DAY TWO.\r\nHats off to all who organized this event.\r\nIt was brilliant,absolutely brilliant.\r\nMorale, comorodary, fellowship was over the top.Everyone came away with a\r\nwealth of knowledge,a smile on their face and at least 8-10 extra\r\npounds.the quality of food was outstanding.\r\nI would do it again tomorrow !\r\n73 WB8RJY\r\n\r\njeff broughton\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 3\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 17:55:20 -0600\r\nFrom: Clayton Coleman\r\nTo: AMSAT-BB\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 FM was on for a little bit tonight\r\nMessage-ID:\r\n\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\n\r\nAt 23:38 UTC, heard LilacSat-2 FM transponder active. I gave my\r\ncallsign a few times. It switched off around 23:41 UTC.\r\n\r\n73\r\nClayton\r\nW5PFG\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 4\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 19:24:53 -0500\r\nFrom: Ken Alexander\r\nTo: [email protected]\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Great White North Grid Expedition Schedule for\r\n Saturday\r\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed\r\n\r\nVal-d'Or QC is colder and snowier than everywhere else I've been. This\r\nis where the grid activations are really going to be weather dependent.\r\n\r\nFirst of all, I'm afraid I have to sacrifice FN17. It's in the wrong\r\ndirection and the distances are too great. Tomorrow will be all about\r\nFN09, FN18 and FN19. To be efficient, I will try to operate from grid\r\nboundaries, specifically FN18/FN19 and then FN09/FN19 a little later.\r\nHopefully, I can park on the side of the highway without getting in the\r\nway. If you look at it on a map, the highway (Hwy 109 north from\r\nFN18at) connects civilization with...well, very very little! Traffic\r\nshould be very light.\r\n\r\nI have a long drive to my next hotel tomorrow evening, so I am finishing\r\nup with the AO-7's pass at 2021. I hope I have this right...AO-7 will\r\nbe in Mode B tomorrow? If not, there won't be much to do.\r\n\r\nSO-50 isn't positioned well. The only opportunity we have tomorrow is\r\nat 1305. I was hoping to do better for the FM-only ops. That's just\r\nthe way it is.\r\n\r\n 26.11.2016 SO-50 13:05\r\n 26.11.2016 AO-73 14:06\r\n 26.11.2016 FO-29 15:14\r\n 26.11.2016 EO-79 15:39\r\n 26.11.2016 FO-29 17:00\r\n 26.11.2016 AO-07 18:28\r\n 26.11.2016 AO-85 18:49\r\n 26.11.2016 AO-07 20:21\r\n\r\nAs always, keep following me on Twitter @ve3hls for updates...although,\r\nonce I'm up there I'll be well out of cellphone range.\r\n\r\n73,\r\n\r\nKen\r\nVE3HLS\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 5\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 16:50:22 -0800\r\nFrom: \"Ted\"\r\nTo: , \"'Amsat BB'\"\r\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Symposium\r\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"utf-8\"\r\n\r\nExcellent commentary, Pablo...\r\n\r\nUnfortunately, you took the bait, thus giving him another chance to toot his horn..\r\n\r\nEveryone knows what he is. Simply ignoring ANY of his posts is the way to deal with the problem.\r\n\r\n73, K7TRK\r\n\r\n-----Original Message-----\r\nFrom: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pablomiel70--- via AMSAT-BB\r\nSent: Friday, November 25, 2016 12:56 PM\r\nTo: [email protected]\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Symposium\r\n\r\nClint Bragford K6LCS,\r\nYour posts amount to an epic fail. When AMSAT announced their 2016 symposium would be on a ship, you immediately tried to sink it. You were shot down by numerous, well respected individuals who have something you haven't got -- humility. When's the last time you attended a symposium? Ummm, never? http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-January/056856.html http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-January/056858.htmlhttp://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-January/056859.html\r\nYou have no idea what a symposium costs AMSAT. The meeting space, tea, coffee, etc. didn't cost AMSAT a dime on the cruise ship. Just because you don't like W5PFG, don't take it out on AMSAT. Your idiotic posts clearly demonstrate you can't tell the difference between a general meeting slide deck and the symposium event. You just have a bone to pick because someone out-did you, again. I like how you decided to bring the conversation to your personal domain (Yahoo Work-Scat) rather than publicly discuss on AMSAT's message forum, the AMSAT-BB. Petty and weak! While we are at it, why do you even care about AMSAT? A few months ago, you threatened them with legal action if they didn't \"reign in\" one of their most dedicated volunteers. That man, WD9EWK, happens to be one of the most generous and outspoken educators in the satellite community. You are not a team player and frankly I don't see why AMSAT didn't strip you of your \"Area Coordinator\" title sooner!\r\nNobody cares about the \"kudos\" and \"thank you\" emails you supposedly get via email. Most of the time, you are talking to yourself on the self-promoting forum threads you scatter across the web. Intelligent people pick up on your silly auctions as a PR trick to get more website hits.\r\nToday you're promoting barbed wire antennas again on another forum. How silly? Barbed wire is not an effective material for constructing antennas. Because one guy did it as a novelty, you act like it should work for everyone in every situation.\r\nFace it, your advice sucks. Your frequency chart (which was wrong for a long time, BTW) is basically your one trick pony. Any videos of you working a satellite on YouTube demonstrate your novice skill level.\r\nI'm thankful this season that you are not a professional educator in any school system.\r\n_______________________________________________\r\nSent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\r\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\r\nSubscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 6\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 19:01:03 -0600\r\nFrom: Stefan Wagener\r\nTo: Fred Castello\r\nCc: AMSAT bbs\r\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Circular Polarization vs. Preamps\r\nMessage-ID:\r\n\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\n\r\nHi Fred,\r\n\r\nany preamp will only amplify what the antenna receives. No preamp can\r\ncompensate for polarization mismatch.\r\n\r\nStefan, VE4NSA\r\n\r\nOn Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Fred Castello\r\nwrote:\r\n\r\n> Folks,\r\n>\r\n> I have now finally become active again on some of the satellites with a\r\n> handheld Arrow and my bulky but beloved Kenwood TS-790A. See my QRZ page\r\n> for picture of how I have it setup outside when I operate. I am trying to\r\n> put together a more permanent antenna system within my budget. I have been\r\n> rather surprised how much fade is apparent in some of the birds which\r\n> responds usually to some degree by twisting the axis of the Arrow antenna.\r\n> So, my question is as follows:\r\n>\r\n> Would you rather have:\r\n>\r\n> A) The ability to switch polarization, presumably from RHCP to LHCP\r\n> (or maybe even vertical to horizontal)? Unfortunately my research shows to\r\n> date that this option is still rather expensive. Any suggestions on how to\r\n> achieve this on a modest budget would be appreciated.\r\n>\r\n> OR\r\n>\r\n> B) A reasonable preamp on both 2 meters and 70 cm? (I have never\r\n> worked with a preamp yet-though I have ordered the \"Original Broadband\r\n> Satellite RX Preamp? from the AMSAT store and plan on using that and\r\n> switching it manually depending on what bird I am using into the receive\r\n> side).\r\n> For information, I will have about 70 feet of feedline.\r\n>\r\n> Assuming that one cannot have both.\r\n> As usual, I really appreciate your time and input.\r\n> Best,\r\n> Fred-KF4FC\r\n> Fishersville, VA\r\n> _______________________________________________\r\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\r\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\r\n> expressed\r\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\r\n> AMSAT-NA.\r\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\r\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\r\n>\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 7\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 23:32:18 -0300\r\nFrom: Pedro Converso\r\nTo: AMSAT\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 CW Beacon heard\r\nMessage-ID:\r\n\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\n\r\nOn orbit 33389 over Buenos Aires, on Nov-26 at 02:10z on 435.790 MHz\r\nstrong copy of HO-68 CW Beacon.\r\n\r\nJust at that time, when HO-68 went dark, CW reception stopped.\r\n\r\nSeems Sun is needed to operate, congrats to recovery team.\r\n\r\n73, LU7ABF, Pedro\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 8\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 22:54:23 -0500\r\nFrom: Scott\r\nTo: AMSAT\r\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] HO-68 CW Beacon heard\r\nMessage-ID:\r\n\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\n\r\nOn the 00:47 UTC pass over the U.S., I copied 3 good CW transmissions, but\r\nthey were not complete telemetry sessions. The signal did not fade, but\r\nrather just stopped after a portion of the expected CW telemetry objects.\r\n\r\nThis pass was almost 3 hours past local sunset, but I don't know if that\r\nwould put the satellite in darkness or not.\r\n\r\nI just put a Tweet up with pictures, the decoded CW, and a link to an audio\r\nrecording of the first of the three transmissions at:\r\n\r\nhttps://twitter.com/scott23192/status/802357627212730368 (no Twitter\r\naccount required to view my post)\r\n\r\n(if you listen to the audio recording, please note that the changes in tone\r\nare not from the satellite, but rather doppler corrections occurring in my\r\ntracking software)\r\n\r\n-Scott, K4KDR\r\nMontpelier, VA USA\r\n\r\n================================================================\r\n\r\n\r\nOn Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Pedro Converso wrote:\r\n\r\n> On orbit 33389 over Buenos Aires, on Nov-26 at 02:10z on 435.790 MHz\r\n> strong copy of HO-68 CW Beacon.\r\n>\r\n> Just at that time, when HO-68 went dark, CW reception stopped.\r\n>\r\n> Seems Sun is needed to operate, congrats to recovery team.\r\n>\r\n> 73, LU7ABF, Pedro\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 9\r\nDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 01:06:18 -0300\r\nFrom: Pedro Converso\r\nTo: Scott\r\nCc: AMSAT\r\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] HO-68 CW Beacon heard\r\nMessage-ID:\r\n\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\n\r\nNice and strong signal and graph! Scott, thanks for sharing.\r\n\r\nYou can know if the satellite is sunlit or not in real time during pass.\r\n\r\nTry http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm clicking HO-68.\r\n\r\nIf it is sunlit a little Sun Icon will show top right close to the name.\r\n\r\nIf it is dark then the Sun Icon will not show.\r\n\r\nThis takes into account height of satellite and if sees Sun.\r\n\r\n73, lu7abf, Pedro\r\n\r\nOn Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:54 AM, Scott wrote:\r\n> On the 00:47 UTC pass over the U.S., I copied 3 good CW transmissions, but\r\n> they were not complete telemetry sessions. The signal did not fade, but\r\n> rather just stopped after a portion of the expected CW telemetry objects.\r\n>\r\n> This pass was almost 3 hours past local sunset, but I don't know if that\r\n> would put the satellite in darkness or not.\r\n>\r\n> I just put a Tweet up with pictures, the decoded CW, and a link to an audio\r\n> recording of the first of the three transmissions at:\r\n>\r\n> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/802357627212730368 (no Twitter\r\n> account required to view my post)\r\n>\r\n> (if you listen to the audio recording, please note that the changes in tone\r\n> are not from the satellite, but rather doppler corrections occurring in my\r\n> tracking software)\r\n>\r\n> -Scott, K4KDR\r\n> Montpelier, VA USA\r\n>\r\n> ================================================================\r\n>\r\n>\r\n> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Pedro Converso wrote:\r\n>\r\n>> On orbit 33389 over Buenos Aires, on Nov-26 at 02:10z on 435.790 MHz\r\n>> strong copy of HO-68 CW Beacon.\r\n>>\r\n>> Just at that time, when HO-68 went dark, CW reception stopped.\r\n>>\r\n>> Seems Sun is needed to operate, congrats to recovery team.\r\n>>\r\n>> 73, LU7ABF, Pedro\r\n> _______________________________________________\r\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\r\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\r\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\r\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\r\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 10\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 19:52:07 -0800\r\nFrom: Clint Bradford\r\nTo: AMSAT BB\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Symposium\r\nMessage-ID:\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\r\n\r\nWell - good evening to you, too, Pablo.\r\n\r\n>> When's the last time you attended a symposium? Ummm, never?\r\n\r\nI just love it when truly ignorant statements are made - as if the writer knew anything about\r\nwhat they are talking about.\r\n\r\nI attended an AMSAT Symposium when it was in San Jose, CA. I also accumulated one of the\r\n finest assemblage of raffle prizes AMSAT-NA has ever seen when I was prize coordinator\r\nfor their symposium a couple years ago. Got a plaque signed by the AMSAT prez for that effort.\r\n\r\nI know exactly what a cruise costs. I know precisely what it costs to put on events. I orchestrated\r\na city-wide event for Riverside, CA (population 300K) that had about 7,000 attendees. From parking\r\nto logistics to communications to placing a repeater atop a local hill to working with each and\r\nevery vendor - I know what it takes.\r\n\r\nI also worked with the publicity director for a large regional newspaper. I have also been involved\r\nwith several 501(c)(3) organizations with their fundraising and grant writing projects.\r\n\r\nI also orchestrated an ARISS contact for my City of Jurupa Valley - earning FRONT PAGE WITH\r\nCOLOR PHOTOS coverage in California?s sixth-largest daily newspaper. Along with NPR interviews,\r\ncoverage by other video outlets, video highlighted on the Bob Heil / Gordon West Ham Nation\r\nmediacast - I did it all for our students.\r\n\r\nSo you have no idea who I am or what I have done. Yet you spout your venom ...\r\n\r\nA group in financial problems holding an annual event on a cruise. If you do not see how horrible\r\nthat looks - from a public relations and marketing aspect - then you are either naive or just plain\r\nignorant.\r\n\r\nI acknowledged on the AMSAT-BB list that you made good points. You are welcome.\r\n\r\nHow I am ?self-promoting? myself - actually ?promoting working the birds? has proven effective. I am\r\napproached monthly by conventions, groups, municipalities, clubs - to find out more about working\r\nthe FM birds. In that aspect - ?spending the word? - I am tremendously successful.\r\n\r\n>> ? Barbed wire is not an effective material for constructing antennas ?\r\n\r\nTell that to the Boy Scouts who used that barbed wire antenna to speak to an astronaut who was\r\naboard the ISS at the time.\r\n\r\nYOU are just one of a handful that, apparently, just don?t get it. Working a couple of the FM birds is\r\nnot something one needs to put a lot of money in to. Is using barbed wire the same as spending $500+\r\nand using an M2 2MCP28? Nope. DOES IT WORK FOR THIS? ABSOLUTELY.\r\n\r\n>> ? you act like it should work for everyone in every situation ?\r\n\r\nBovine excrement. Can one make an effective 2M/440 antenna and work a bird or three? Absolutely.\r\n\r\n>> ? I'm thankful this season that you are not a professional educator in any school system ?\r\n\r\nSorry to disappoint you - but I still volunteer for NASA and am earned my registered ARRL instructor\r\nposition.\r\n\r\nClint Bradford K6LCS\r\n\r\nPS By the way, I don?t see any posts from you suggesting tactics to ?save? AMSAT-NA from its\r\ncurrent financial problems. At least a few of us are ? But not you ?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 11\r\nDate: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:14:53 -0800\r\nFrom: Clint Bradford\r\nTo: AMSAT BB\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Symposium\r\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\r\n\r\nI sure hope you - the moderator of my posts here - allow this little rebuttal to\r\nthe post from ?Pablo? that you allowed earlier today. My bottom line remains:\r\nWhat can we all do to make AMSAT-NA survive.\r\n\r\n???????????????????????????\r\n\r\nWell - good evening to you, too, Pablo.\r\n\r\n>> When's the last time you attended a symposium? Ummm, never?\r\n\r\nI just love it when truly ignorant statements are made - as if the writer knew anything about\r\nwhat they are talking about.\r\n\r\nI attended an AMSAT Symposium when it was in San Jose, CA. I also accumulated one of the\r\nfinest assemblage of raffle prizes AMSAT-NA has ever seen when I was prize coordinator\r\nfor their symposium a couple years ago. Got a plaque signed by the AMSAT prez for that effort.\r\n\r\nI know exactly what a cruise costs. I know precisely what it costs to put on events. I orchestrated\r\na city-wide event for Riverside, CA (population 300K) that had about 7,000 attendees. From parking\r\nto logistics to communications to placing a repeater atop a local hill to working with each and\r\nevery vendor - I know what it takes.\r\n\r\nI also worked with the publicity director for a large regional newspaper. I have also been involved\r\nwith several 501(c)(3) organizations with their fundraising and grant writing projects.\r\n\r\nI also orchestrated an ARISS contact for my City of Jurupa Valley - earning FRONT PAGE WITH\r\nCOLOR PHOTOS coverage in California?s sixth-largest daily newspaper. Along with NPR interviews,\r\ncoverage by other video outlets, video highlighted on the Bob Heil / Gordon West Ham Nation\r\nmediacast - I did it all for our students.\r\n\r\nSo you have no idea who I am or what I have done. Yet you spout your venom ...\r\n\r\nA group in financial problems holding an annual event on a cruise. If you do not see how horrible\r\nthat looks - from a public relations and marketing aspect - then you are either naive or just plain\r\nignorant.\r\n\r\nI acknowledged on the AMSAT-BB list that you made good points. You are welcome.\r\n\r\nHow I am ?self-promoting? myself - actually ?promoting working the birds? has proven effective. I am\r\napproached monthly by conventions, groups, municipalities, clubs - to find out more about working\r\nthe FM birds. In that aspect - ?spending the word? - I am tremendously successful.\r\n\r\n>> ? Barbed wire is not an effective material for constructing antennas ?\r\n\r\nTell that to the Boy Scouts who used that barbed wire antenna to speak to an astronaut who was\r\naboard the ISS at the time.\r\n\r\nYOU are just one of a handful that, apparently, just don?t get it. Working a couple of the FM birds is\r\nnot something one needs to put a lot of money in to. Is using barbed wire the same as spending $500+\r\nand using an M2 2MCP28? Nope. DOES IT WORK FOR THIS? ABSOLUTELY.\r\n\r\n>> ? you act like it should work for everyone in every situation ?\r\n\r\nBovine excrement. Can one make an effective 2M/440 antenna and work a bird or three? Absolutely.\r\n\r\n>> ? I'm thankful this season that you are not a professional educator in any school system ?\r\n\r\nSorry to disappoint you - but I still volunteer for NASA and am earned my registered ARRL instructor\r\nposition.\r\n\r\nClint Bradford K6LCS\r\n\r\nPS By the way, I don?t see any posts from you suggesting tactics to ?save? AMSAT-NA from its\r\ncurrent financial problems. At least a few of us are ? But not you ?\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nMessage: 12\r\nDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 01:35:20 -0500\r\nFrom: [email protected]\r\nTo: [email protected]\r\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-11-26\r\n 07:00 UTC\r\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"ISO-8859-1\"\r\n\r\nUpcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-11-26 07:00 UTC\r\n\r\nQuick list of scheduled contacts and events:\r\n\r\nPrivate Salesian High School named of St. Dominic Savio, Wroclaw, Poland,\r\ntelebridge via W6SRJ\r\nThe ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS\r\nThe scheduled astronaut is Shane Kimbrough KE5HOD\r\nContact was successful: Fri 2016-11-25 11:12:47 UTC 65 deg (***)\r\n\r\nColl?ge Michel Lotte, Le Palais, France, telebridge via LU1CGB\r\nThe ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS\r\nThe scheduled astronaut is Thomas Pesquet KF5FYG\r\nContact is a go for: Mon 2016-11-28 10:38:06 UTC 74 deg\r\n\r\nWatch for live audio stream:\r\nhttp://radio-belleile.fr/contact-iss-michel-lotte-2016/ (sound only, the video will be recorded and available later)\r\n\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\n**\r\nARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.\r\nARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send\r\nyour reports to [email protected] or [email protected].\r\n\r\nListen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\n***\r\n\r\nAll ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\n***\r\n\r\nSeveral of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and\r\nnot being able to get in. That has now been changed to\r\nhttp://www.ariss.org/\r\n\r\nNote that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\nLooking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?\r\n\r\nIf interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete\r\ndetails. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp://www.ariss-eu.org/\r\n\r\nIf you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to\r\nprovide some insight. Contact Kerry at [email protected]\r\n****************************************************************************\r\nARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100\r\n\r\nschools:\r\n\r\nSatoshi 7M3TJZ with 123\r\nGaston ON4WF with 121\r\nFrancesco IK?WGF with 118\r\n\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\nThe webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date\r\nwebpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are\r\nadditional\r\nARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.\r\n\r\nNote, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own\r\norbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed\r\ntime.\r\nAll dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date\r\nand\r\ntime format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS\r\n\r\nThe complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-11-22 07:00 UTC.\r\n(***)\r\nHere you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and\r\nquestions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and\r\ninstructions for any contact that may be streamed live.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt\r\n\r\nTotal number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1094. (***)\r\nEach school counts as 1 event.\r\nTotal number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1059. (***)\r\nEach contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.\r\nTotal number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.\r\n\r\nA complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the\r\nfile.\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf\r\n\r\nPlease feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.\r\n\r\n++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\r\n\r\nThe following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:\r\nArkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern\r\nMarianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.\r\n\r\n++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\r\n\r\nQSL information may be found at:\r\nhttp://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html\r\n\r\nISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\nThe successful school list has been updated as of 2016-11-18 08:00 UTC.\r\n(***)\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf\r\n\r\nFrequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing\r\nDoppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction\r\n.rtf\r\n\r\nListing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf\r\n\r\nCheck out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts\r\n\r\nhttps://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415\r\n****************************************************************************\r\nExp. 49 on orbit\r\nShane Kimbrough KE5HOD\r\nAndrei Borisenko\r\nSergey Ryzhikov\r\n\r\n****************************************************************************\r\n\r\n73,\r\nCharlie Sufana AJ9N\r\nOne of the ARISS operation team mentors\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nSubject: Digest Footer\r\n\r\n_______________________________________________\r\nSent via [email protected].\r\nAMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\r\nare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\r\nNot an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\r\nhttp://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\r\n\r\n------------------------------\r\n\r\nEnd of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 375\r\n*****************************************\r\n\r\n", "attachments": [] }