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    "sender_name": "Kenneth P Alexander",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???",
    "date": "2019-08-01T05:59:02Z",
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    "content": "\"DVB-S2X down, FDMA up, single carrier, \"\n\nIs this something I can do with a pair of FT-818s and my Arrow antenna?\n\nKen (still VE3HLS)\nSo Phisai, Thailand\nBlog:  bueng-ken.com\n\nOn Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 07:10 Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n>  BRILLIANT!  Way to go, Michelle!  The potential here is astounding.\n> We're sending you all the good vibes that we can!\n>\n> Ev, W2EV\n>\n>     On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 4:34:42 PM EDT, Michelle Thompson <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n>\n>  I got a call from a space industry contact who saw this post.\n>\n> DVB-S2X down, FDMA up, single carrier, reasonable rent, public safety\n> partner. Money for a year's worth could be raised in a single campaign.\n>\n> I'll see what I can find out and draw up a proposal.\n>\n> -Michelle W5NYV\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 3:53 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n>\n>  This is interesting for sure, Michelle.\n> Traditionally, amateur satellites (and symbiants) have been self-contained\n> RX and TX systems.\n>\n> Conjecture follows...If DVB-S2 could be negotiated to provide the\n> downlink, the missing component is an uplink within the amateur bands (just\n> restating you).\n> That means (if it can be negotiated), our work is cut in half because we\n> are reduced to providing the uplink (RX) side and a pathway to the DVB-S2\n> downlink.  Of course, this is an oversimplification because we would also\n> need all of the things that make a symbiant palatable to the host system.\n> Interesting thought experiment, though.\n> Ev\n>\n>\n>\n>     On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 4:26:39 PM EDT, Michelle Thompson via\n> AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:\n>\n>  Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a downlink,\n> then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire standard to open\n> source amateur radio use would seem to be quite relevant.\n>\n> Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are some\n> internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an\n> intermediate step.\n>\n> Great question and discussion.\n>\n> -Michelle W5NYV\n>\n> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n>\n> > Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the\n> > sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!\n> > Brad Smith KC9UQR\n> > <So, like \"FM Tower for Rent\", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we\n> > soon see \"GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent\" as well ?Maybe this\n> could\n> > be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n",
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