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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/RUDFPNDFN2W6NQ2ERIYPMCVNLVZFCROT/",
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    "message_id": "CANyTfWstEx+i6NYP0nTjrRja-Tz5GOonDdSfYJuf0yPDsK2WDg@mail.gmail.com",
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        "address": "n9hfontheair (a) gmail.com",
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    "sender_name": "David Kerl",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] [VHF]  [VHFcontesting] 5 Band VUCC Award",
    "date": "2019-04-22T21:48:07Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HQ24I3E6C5RMORBOGVTNWSDKQ6YQA2SF/",
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    "content": "I have completed WAS on 11 bands.\nDave\nN9HF\nel99\n\n\"Back in my day\" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.\n\n\nOn Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:14 PM John Geiger via VHF <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> Probably W2SZ/1, except for the satellite VUCC.\n>\n> 73 John AF5CC\n>\n> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> > With regards to 5 Band VUCC.   I think that satellite VUCC (100 QSOs) is\n> > just another band.  (more accurate - Sat is a mode)\n> >\n> > The ARRL identifies 10 VUCC bands between 50 MHz and 10 GHz.  Satellite\n> is\n> > just the 11th VUCC band.\n> >\n> > Complete VUCC in any 5 bands and earn the 5BVUCC.  Am I missing\n> something?\n> >\n> > Has anyone completed VUCC in all 11 bands?\n> >\n> > 73 - Paul - W2HRO\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:58 PM K7XC Tim Marek via AMSAT-BB <\n> > [email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > > A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC\n> > > contacts already in LOTW\n> > > to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?\n> > >\n> > > Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs\n> > are\n> > > NOT allowed,\n> > > and that means NO Satellites!\n> > >\n> > > I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non\n> Terrestrial\n> > > contacts to a Terrestrial award!\n> > >\n> > > If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on,\n> > > disrespecting everyone who in the\n> > > past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The\n> > > fact it was hard made the goal\n> > > worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds\n> No\n> > > Water. If you want something\n> > > bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.\n> > >\n> > > I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs\n> > and\n> > > encourage others to do as well.\n> > >\n> > > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk\n> > >\n> > > Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!\n> > >\n> > >\n> > >\n> > >\n> > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn <[email protected]>\n> > wrote:\n> > >\n> > > > John,\n> > > >\n> > > > My proposal would allow “Satellite VUCC” to count towards 5BVUCC. The\n> > > idea\n> > > > is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming\n> > > > changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.\n> > > >\n> > > > So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than\n> > 12\n> > > > hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who\n> > supports\n> > > > this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know\n> > > about\n> > > > the idea—and that you’d like to see it implemented.\n> > > >\n> > > > In the Southeast Section, we’re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as\n> > our\n> > > > representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need\n> to\n> > > get\n> > > > him on the satellites more though!\n> > > >\n> > > > :-)\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > > 73,\n> > > >\n> > > > Les Rayburn, N1LF\n> > > > Maylene, AL\n> > > > EM63nf\n> > > > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > >\n> > > > > On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n> > > > >\n> > > > > Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct\n> contacts?\n> > > > >\n> > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB\n> > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> Hello Les,\n> > > > >> That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I\n> > > would\n> > > > >> certainly work towards that end.\n> > > > >> Dave\n> > > > >> N9HF\n> > > > >> el99\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> \"Back in my day\" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <\n> > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>\n> > > > >> wrote:\n> > > > >>\n> > > > >>> Lady & Gentlemen,\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from\n> > anyone\n> > > on\n> > > > >>> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one\n> was\n> > > > lost in\n> > > > >>> cyberspace.\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,\n> > I’d\n> > > > like\n> > > > >>> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that\n> > > would\n> > > > >>> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five\n> or\n> > > > more of\n> > > > >>> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special\n> > > > >>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on\n> > the\n> > > > >>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222,\n> > 1296,\n> > > > and\n> > > > >>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the\n> sale\n> > > of\n> > > > more\n> > > > >>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and\n> > > > advances\n> > > > >>> the state of the radio art.\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what\n> I\n> > > > could\n> > > > >>> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,\n> > grateful\n> > > > for\n> > > > >>> your service to the hobby.\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> 73,\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF\n> > > > >>> 121 Mayfair Park\n> > > > >>> Maylene, AL 35114\n> > > > >>> EM63nf\n> > > > >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >>> _______________________________________________\n> > > > >>> VHF mailing list\n> > > > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n> > > > >>> https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf <\n> > > > https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf>\n> > > > >>>\n> > > > >> _______________________________________________\n> > > > >> Sent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. AMSAT-NA\n> > > > makes this open forum available\n> > > > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > > > Opinions expressed\n> > > > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official\n> > views\n> > > > of AMSAT-NA.\n> > > > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > > > program!\n> > > > >> Subscription settings:\n> > > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > > > <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>\n> > > >\n> > > > _______________________________________________\n> > > > VHFcontesting mailing list\n> > > > [email protected]\n> > > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting\n> > > >\n> > > _______________________________________________\n> > > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> > Opinions\n> > > expressed\n> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views\n> of\n> > > AMSAT-NA.\n> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > program!\n> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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