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    "sender_name": "Bruce Robertson",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Elk Antenna ?",
    "date": "2009-06-04T13:35:29Z",
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    "content": "On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Robert Bruninga <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> I want... a dual band 144/440 antenna on my 85' tower.\n>> Can I get away with a fixed elevation of about 30\n>> degrees and horizontal polarization?\n>\n> Three facts say that 30 degrees is the wrong angle.\n>\n> 1. The amount of time that LEO satellites are above 30 degrees\n> is less than 20% of all view times.\n>\n> 2. You don’t need gain when satellites are above 30 degrees\n> because they are much closer and 6 to 10 dB STRONGER.\n>\n> 3) You DO need gain at the horizon where they are 6 to 10 dB\n> WEAKER.\n>\n> So putting the beam at 30 degrees is counterproductive to LEO\n> satellite reception, you will be giving up 3 dB where you need\n> it most!.\n>\n> The answer is to elevate it to 15 degrees.\n\nOnce again, Bob's advice is very good. I followed it when I began\nsatellite operations, and it was quite helpful. Some further notes:\n\n1. This pertains to shorter, and therefore wider beamwidth, antennas\nonly.Fortunately, these are quite acceptable to communicate with LEO\nsatellites.\n\n2. You needn't be too fussy about the exact angle. 30% is too high,\nbut you'll probably not notice the difference between 12 and 17, for\nexample.\n\n3. With a tower that high, you must include low noise preamps at the\ntop of the tower. The ones from Advanced Receiver Research and SSB USA\nare highly regarded on this list.With that much cable between you and\nthe antenna, you will be better off with a simple 1/4wave vertical and\na preamp than you would with these antennas and no preamp.\n\n",
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