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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/SLKKCMBK3QQCSQWGVC6T6PLAE5WE6AVX/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/FEBDCQJ3PAKZ6UFGO4JPZNHRAZYXDDMR/",
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        "address": "al7cr (a) punakea.com",
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    "sender_name": "AL7CR",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: S band downlink on P3E",
    "date": "2006-09-08T04:45:36Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/EF6SVN6Z5TTT2TPBSIUEGFGHBGWXZIQ6/",
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    "content": "I too totally agree.  I see no reason why we can not vote on the \ndesigners decision with our support dollars.  Personally, I am giving \nall mine to P3E.\n\nThe fact that they are \"designing the ground equipment too\" is of no \ncomfort to me.  My S band gear is on the tower and operating.\n\nIf AMSAT thinks this is such a great decision then let them find the \nmoney to support it without the majority of us.\n\nDean Shutt\nAL7CR\n\n\[email protected] wrote:\n> I totally agree with you.\n> \n> Les W4SCO\n> \n> At 02:38 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:\n> \n>>Rick,\n>>\n>>I am in _TOTAL_ agreement. I live in the suburbs of Tampa/St. Pete and never\n>>had an interference problem on my 3 foot dish. I have used the same dish to\n>>log well over a dozen WiFi access points in that immediate neighborhood.\n>>With properly designed equipment, all that trash on 2.4 ghz goes away with\n>>some elevation. What won't work is helixes with multiple sidelobes, and\n>>surplus dishes that let one whole polarity of noise right thru the back.\n>>\n>>Everyone knows I'm a big supporter of AMSAT, but I gotta call it as I see\n>>it. It makes me think of \"bait and switch\" to collect money for a project\n>>featuring such a popular mode and then drop it.\n>>\n>>The loss of Mode B on AO-40 caused a lot of the hardcore AO-10/AO-13 types\n>>to walk away, and that was tough to overcome. Now that we have, and we have\n>>people wanting S band, we leave them behind too. Even if it's a sound\n>>engineering decision (and that hasn't been proven to me) it's a horrid\n>>marketing decision. Bad mojo for a organization that lives on the donations\n>>of it's members.\n>>\n>>Sorry if this causes any pain to those involved with Eagle, but I needed to\n>>get it off my chest.\n>>\n>>73, Drew KO4MA\n>>AMSAT LM 2332\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>>While AO-40 was still alive and I was working it from deep within \"Silicon\n>>>Valley\", an area blanketed by WiFi, 2.4GHz cordless phones, etc., I\n>>>discovered that a parabolic dish with a properly positioned and designed\n>>>patch feed (slightly under-illuminating the dish and having no significant\n>>>side-lobes) would bring in AO-40's S-band downlink very nicely and cleanly.\n>>\n>>>Of course, other feed or antenna types such as helical antennas/feeds were\n>>>useless in that environment.\n>>\n>>>I have to admit that I don't buy the \"too noisy\" argument.\n>>\n>>>73,\n>>\n>>>Rick\n>>>KG6IAL\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>_______________________________________________\n>>Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n> \n\n",
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