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    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: FW: Oh - my - God - (AO-7 uplink power).",
    "date": "2008-02-02T06:49:44Z",
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    "content": "\n\n\n\n\n-------------- Original message -------------- \nFrom: [email protected] \n\nJohn/etc\nTo requalify- This is my capability!  I use only the exciter IC-451 1-8W.  I am acutely aware of the sensitivity  of AO-7.  However when attempting work footprint edge to footprint edge, I did run some power momentarily to find my down link.  Yes John I have read all the available information regarding the history and operation of AO-7. John, I trust you will take the liberty to CC this email to the EU AMSAT reflector, their mail bounces back.  I should have reread my initial post to the bb, as the context is not correct.  My apologies to all for the justifyable outrage this  has caused.  I conscientiously make every effort to follow all the rules written and unwritten.  I will look into the wet shoestring concept.\n\n--\n73 Bob W7LRD \nAMSAT member 28498 \nSeattle\n\n\n-------------- Original message -------------- \nFrom: john hackett <[email protected]> \n\n> \n> For those that don't understand power budgets on satellites - especially ailing \n> ones - *PLEASE* make the effort to read up on the subject - so you can honestly \n> say \"your\" operating *DIDN'T* shorten a particular satellites life ... or ... \n> you were *NOT* being an alligator ... (all mouth and no ears) ... and using more \n> than your fair share of the available power. \n> \n> Remember ... there are potentially many !! users on AO-7 and the available power \n> is distributed among them ... a LINEAR transponder isd *NOT* like an FM \n> transponder. \n> \n> There is an excuse for simply \"not knowing\" - but there is no !! excuse for \n> knowing and ignoring the facts - that's just plain anti-social. \n> \n> If you're not aware of it, do please !!! take the time to read up on the \n> subject. \n> \n> 73 John \n> \n> From: [email protected] \n> To: [email protected] \n> CC: [email protected]; [email protected] \n> Subject: Oh - my - God - (AO-7 uplink power). \n> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:41:04 +0100 \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> Oh - my - God!, \n> \n> >On 70cm I run about 80-100 watts to a 40 el cp \n> >yagi. I can pick up my down link when the sat \n> >is about 7 degrees. \n> \n> 73 Bob W7LRD That's not an AO-7 station Bob, it's an EME station. \n> \n> Did you not read the recommended operating proceedure for AO-7 \n> \n> \n> \n> 5 watts or less to a decent aerial is adequate. Personally, I have *NEVER* used \n> more than 5 watts to a homebrew 6 element yagi but this gave me 3rd place \n> worldwide - (currently 5th) - when I was more active. \n> \n> I have taken the liberty of CC'ing part of your mail to the EU amsat reflector \n> because like me - they won't believe! the power you're using ... 100 watts to 40 \n> elements is several kilowatts !! EIRP. \n> \n> I would respectfully suggest you do some research about *WHY* one should \n> maintain a reasonable power budget when operating satellites ... afterwards - \n> (hopefully) - you'll see what I mean. \n> \n> AO-7 is not in the best of health at at the best of times but hitting it with so \n> much uplink power is most certainly not going to prolong it's life. \n> \n> It is also thoroughly recommended to use a \"receiver\" with an aerial attached - \n> though with your uplink power - (if it's true) - \n> a wet shoelace ought to suffice. \n> \n> NB. \n> \n> You did say 40 elem ents ... did you mean 4 ???. \n> \n> 73 John. \n> ................................................................................ \n> ...... \n> \n> > From: [email protected] \n> > To: [email protected] \n> > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 03:58:29 +0000 \n> > Subject: [amsat-bb] antenna attenuation \n> > \n> > Hello \n> > Has anyone encountered this situation- My satellite antennas are about 15 \n> feet off the ground. approximatly 18 feet away at that height is the base of a \n> 25 foot tripod that holds my HF quad. When aiming at a certain direction about \n> 15-20 degrees I can't seem to get through to AO-7. I am trying to connect with \n> OH8MBN. Other directions I can usually hear my downlink almost down to the \n> horizon. On 70cm I run about 80-100 watts to a 40 el cp yagi. I can pick up my \n> down link when the sat is about 7 degrees. \n> > 73 Bob W7LRD \n> > Seattle \n> > \n> > -- \n> > \"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it\" \n> > _______________________________________________ \n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. \n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! \n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n> \n> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger \n> \n> _________________________________________________________________ \n> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! \n> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ \n> _______________________________________________ \n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. \n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! \n> Sub scription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n--\n73 Bob W7LRD \nAMSAT member 28498 \nSeattle\n",
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