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    "sender_name": "Jerry Conner",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]",
    "date": "2016-06-28T14:42:12Z",
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    "content": " \n\nThen what I am hearing, \"AS A NEWBIE\" is that I am not welcome on the Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost double the cost of the two Chinese radios.\n\nMoney that some of us have a hard time pulling together.\n\nI have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality I am hearing.\n\n \n\nJust my 2 cents \n\nJerry W4JWC \n\n \n\n-------- Original Message --------\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations\nFrom: Michael <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >\nDate: Mon, June 27, 2016 9:04 pm\nTo: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> \n\nI could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your \nlive presentations. It is printed in black and white in your handout. \nYou just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began \ngiving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty \nof spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You \nare leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If \none does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from \nthe bird so as to insure they are \"making it there\" then they should not \nbe on the satellites. End of story.\nMichael, W4HIJ\nOn 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:\n>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is \"not mandatory\" for working sats.\n> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups,\n> \"It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD.\" My standard mantra for the easy FM birds\n> is all over the place:\n>\n> \"Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can\n> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this\n> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and\n> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself.\"\n>\n> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.\n>\n> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-\n> duplex is preferable.\n>\n> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard\n> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.\n>\n> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds,\n> I am available. Just send me an email message.\n>\n> Clint Bradford K6LCS\n> (909) 999-SATS\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\nto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\nare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n",
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