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        "address": "ko6th_greg (a) hotmail.com",
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    "sender_name": "Greg D.",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Programming language recommendation?",
    "date": "2008-10-06T02:43:54Z",
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    "content": "\nHi Bruce,\n\nHow does the Picaxe compare to the BASIC Stamp line from Parallax?  I've built several Stamp projects, and they were very easy to deal with.\n\nGreg  KO6TH\n\n\n----------------------------------------\n> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:07:38 -0300\n> From: [email protected]\n> To: [email protected]\n> CC: [email protected]\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Programming language recommendation?\n> \n> I appreciate Gordon's expert opinion below. If you'd like something\n> that is very, very simple to work with in order to  explore the world\n> of PIC programming, you should also consider the picaxe line of\n> products. These  comprise PIC chips with a basic interpreter on\n> board. The wiring for the programmer is very simple, and the toolchain\n> is easy because it removes the compiling stage.\n> \n> While I'm trying to  move on to the atmel line, using this inexpensive\n> programmer:\n> http://www.ladyada.net/make/usbtinyisp/index.html\n> \n> I still find the picaxe chips  dead  handy for all sorts  of little\n> jobs because so much is built into them.\n> \n> As  for computer programming, I would encourage someone returning to\n> this  practice to consider adding one of the cross-platform scripting\n> languages to his or her arsenal. Ruby and Python are both good\n> choices.\n> \n> \n> 73, Bruce\n> VE9QRP\n> \n> \n> \n> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ\n>  wrote:\n>> JW wrote:\n>>> Along the same line: anyone on here doing PIC programming or know of a\n>>> list for beginners? From CW keyers to Antenna control units and\n>>> everything in between it looks like it would be fun to program some\n>>> gadgets for around the shack...\n>>\n>> Without lighting up a PIC/AVR flamewar, I've pretty much entirely moved\n>> from PIC to AVR.  The hardware is generally two to four times faster for\n>> the same clock rate (gets more done per cycle) and is easier to program\n>> - you can make up an AVR programmer for the parallel port that's\n>> basically three resistors!\n>>\n>> Furthermore, the toolchain is much better for AVR - Microchip are only\n>> interested in pushing their frankly dreadful Windows-only MPLAB\n>> software, while Atmel actively contribute to avr-gcc, a cross-platform\n>> toolchain based on the industry standard gcc.  The whole AVR community\n>> seems a lot better than the PIC one, and I say that as a long-standing\n>> user of PIC microcontrollers.\n>>\n>> In short, PIC is great, but the community isn't as strong and the tools\n>> are rubbish.  On the other hand, Microchip are always more than happy to\n>>  sample parts and their customer support is *excellent*.\n>>\n>> AVR is technically superior in pretty much every way, with an excellent\n>> community.  Unfortunately Atmel's tech support are a dour bunch who are\n>> often hard to get good information out of, and not great at sending samples.\n>>\n>> I haven't tried the ARM-based AVRs or the MIPS-based PICs yet, though.\n>> Those might be something to tempt me back to Microchip, if MIPS is as\n>> good as I remember it ;-)\n>>\n>> Gordon\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nSee how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go.\nhttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/\n",
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