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        "address": "amsat-bb (a) wd9ewk.net",
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    "sender_name": "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day (whew)",
    "date": "2018-06-25T16:37:06Z",
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    "content": "Hi Dave!\n\nThanks again for the SO-50 QSO on Saturday morning early in\nField Day. Even with a pass starting to the south, with most\nof the footprint over Mexico and the Pacific at that point,\nit wasn't an easy QSO to make. Like you, I played my MP3\nrecording back a couple of times to make sure I copied your\ninformation. It was there, and the QSO went in the log.\n\nAfter I worked you, I worked two other stations that called -\nRon W5RKN in Texas, followed by W6KA operated by Tom WA0POD.\nAs I prepare my log for both ARRL and AMSAT, these two QSOs\nwon't go in my score. I will also have some non-scoring QSOs\non the western AO-91 pass just over an hour later - I worked\nKB6LTY very early in that pass, then K6FW and K5RWK (this was\nthe QSO for their 100-point bonus) before that pass simply\nbecame unworkable due to the number of high-power signals\nslamming the satellite. I had exactly one QSO on the AO-85\npass just after 0100 UTC Saturday evening, so I don't have\nto worry about the 1-QSO rule there.\n\nI have logged multiple QSOs on FM satellites during Field Days\nin the past, and I don't count them in my score. I list them\non the submissions I make to ARRL and AMSAT. In the several\nyears I have done this, I have never seen any objections to\nthis come from either entity. I am choosing to make non-scoring\nQSOs, instead of - for example - going back to 20m or 40m and\nmaking QSOs for points for ARRL Field Day on those bands.\n\nAs for the general theme of many messages on here since the\nend of Field Day, I guess it wouldn't be a Field Day among\nsatellite operators without all the hand-wringing about the\nsituation on the FM satellites. I'm not sure I heard \"lots\" of\nQSOs on any of the V/U or U/V FM satellites - I heard some,\nbut heard more CQing, \"QRZ\", or on one AO-85 pass a station\nIDing so often it was basically a CQ call without saying CQ.\nWere there QSOs being made into Saturday night and into\nSunday morning? I didn't hear many QSOs on the western AO-92\npass yesterday, just before 1800 UTC, that I heard from home.\n\nI don't think a \"net control\" style of operation would work\nfor very long on FM satellite passes during Field Day, even\nif one station was willing to make some non-scoring QSOs in\nthe interest of helping other stations make QSOs for points\n(or even the 100-point bonus). I'd rather hear that, than\nhear stations aimlessly calling or transmitting, with no QSOs\nbeing made. Unfortunately, so many try satellites for the\nfirst time on Field Day weekend, even with helpful articles\nin advance of the weekend like the one KX9X wrote for QST.\n\nAway from the FM satellites, the SSB satellites were better,\nbut sometimes transponders got overloaded. The best options\nfor me to make QSOs were on the western AO-92 L/V pass on\nSaturday morning, followed by the NO-84 passes late Saturday\nafternoon. The first of the NO-84 passes, that went over\nmuch of the continental USA, saw only one QSO completed\nusing the 145.825 MHz digipeater. One QSO!!! The later NO-84\npass out west saw WD9EWK and 3 other stations (AI6DO, KB6LTY,\nKK6OTJ) making QSOs with each other - with room for more\nactivity. Unfortunately, FalconSat-3's passes didn't line up\nwith my time in northern Arizona. I wonder if anyone made\nQSOs through that digipeater.\n\n73!\n\n\n\n\nPatrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK\nhttp://www.wd9ewk.net/\nTwitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK\n\n\n\n\nOn Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:55 PM, David Bartholomew <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> A club member from W6SD asked me if I could come to their FD site in\n> Granada Hills CA to do the satellite contact for them. I said I would do\n> it.\n> I had planned ahead, figured out a list of the better passes of the FM sats\n> and FO-29.\n> Got set up and tried SO-50.  We were fortunate. It was coming in from the\n> south and the footprint didn't reach a lot of land yet.\n> I heard WD9EWK on there and figured, \"If anyone can work us through all of\n> this, he can!\"\n> And he did. Well done.\n>\n> I had a small group around me as I did this. N7JY was holding the Elk and\n> his Android tablet, watching the sat path and doing the aiming.  I posted a\n> picture on Twitter @ad7db.\n>\n> Few of the group actually heard the live exchange come back, but I did.\n> I always record the pass, so, after we got the contact, I turned off the\n> radio and played it back for them.  It took a couple of plays to convince\n> them, yes, we got the contact. \"There he is coming back to us, right...\n> there!\"\n>\n> The next day I visited another group's FD site. I was dismayed to find\n> they'd made lots of satellite contacts, even doing a couple on a final pass\n> before the QRT call. What happened with the \"one and done\" rule?   \"7.3.7.1\n> - Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM\n> satellite.\"\n>\n> Dave AD7DB\n>\n",
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