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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/TWPWELZWPTQERCSRIDKEALEMX52456JZ/?format=api",
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    "sender": {
        "address": "8p6sm (a) anjo.com",
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    "sender_name": "Gus 8P6SM",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Need your support to track F-1 CubeSat",
    "date": "2012-09-24T23:06:41Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/DQAEXNEWB7T7WHLTBFFVIJDZQ4QDLKUY/?format=api",
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    "content": "On 09/24/2012 04:22 PM, John Spasojevich wrote:\n> Well Gus, I'm guessing you read Barry's comments regarding launch cost.\n\nI did, and the number is exactly what I previously thought it was.\n\n> So write the check and we'll be ready.\n\nBelieve you me, if I had the cash, I would do exactly that.\n\n> By the time $10M is raised, the cost will have tripled.\n\nWell, that depends upon how fast it is raised.  How much have we raised \nso far?  In the nearly twelve years since the last HEO launch?\n\n> We are talking about hams, not sure how their wallets are where you are\n> but here in the states, if something is listed at 50 cents they'll try\n> and screw you down to 5.\n\nSame here.  But we will still pay 10 grand for a rig if we really want \nto.  Isn't it the same where you live?  It's the bread and water \nprinciple.  You eat bread and water, and save up for what you want. \nEnough bread and water and you can afford anything!  :-)\n\n> So good luck raising that kind of cash in the  a reasonable amount of\n> time. Until a school or someone else needs a HEO  bird, the path is\n> pretty clear for now.\n\nOne way to make sure that you never raise the funds is to keep saying \n\"We can't afford it!\" and never save up.\n\nI seem to have given the impression that I am against LEO birds.  I am \nnot.  As it happens, I believe that HEO birds are better.  In that they \ngenerally offer more facilities for hams generally, and my selfish, \nragchewing, DX-chasing butt in particular.  Where I live, LEO satellites \nmostly give me an opportunity to make contact with fish, swimming in the \nmid Atlantic.  So yes, I have a preference for HEO satellites.\n\nBut I'm not against LEO birds per se.  I AM against any satellite, HEO \nor LEO, that uses our frequencies as a free alternative to the \"Space \nResearch Band\" and GIVE NOTHING BACK IN RETURN.  Neither a functioning \ntransponder that hams can use, nor a financial donation towards the \nlaunch of a bird of our own.  Not even, in most cases, research of \nparticular interest to the broader ham community.\n\nAs for paying for an HEO launch, I can't afford to cough up that much. \nI can't even afford to cough up 1% of the required sum towards a launch \nfund.  Even 0.1% would be a financial strain, but it might be doable. \nAs it turns out there IS no launch fund for any HEO satellite for me to \ncontribute to.\n\n-- \n73, de Gus 8P6SM\nThe Easternmost Isle\n",
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