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    "sender_name": "Luc Leblanc",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ISS and VHF data communications",
    "date": "2009-09-14T09:28:16Z",
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    "content": "On 14 Sep 2009 at 0:16, Rocky Jones wrote:\n\nDate sent:      \tMon, 14 Sep 2009 00:16:20 -0500\nFrom:           \tRocky Jones <[email protected]>\nSubject:        \t[amsat-bb]  ISS and VHF data communications\nTo:             \tAmsat BB <[email protected]>\n\n> \n> http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Ship_Tracking_From_The_ISS_999.html\n> \n> Robert WB5MZO\n>\n\nThis part is intriguing\n\n \n\n\"NORAIS is bound for Columbus, the European space laboratory on the International Space Station. \nThis winter a specially constructed antennae will be brought to the ISS and fitted on the outside of Columbus.\n>From then on, the testing of NORAIS will start.\"\n\nAs the VHF and UHF antenna where not installed on the columbus module even after asking for money  \"ARISS-Europe renews the call for \ndonations to the IARU and AMSAT societies as well as to their members individually.A financial account has been opened by AMSAT Belgium. \nDonators within the European Union will not have to pay any additional banking costs (beyond the costs of a national money transfer) if \nthey use the following international banking number (IBAN) and mention the international identification code (BIC)\"\n\nSee: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/03/21/100/?nc=1\n\nI was under the impression that my contribution will give us another opportunity to have a new space transponder but what i was able to get \nis a bit frustrating There will not have any VHF/UHF capabilities but (Qoute-1) \"the intention is to build a wideband transponder, L-band \nuplink, S-band downlink. Moreover, digital ATV is also thought of. Anyway, among many other aspects, equipment volume, weight, power \nconsumption and heat budget are to be discussed with ESA and EADS\". When i donate to help funding the project i was under the impression my \nmoney will at least give another easy available amateur transponder but it seems we will ended up with an nearly exclusive ARISS \ntransponder as the actual cross band repeater and the supposed always activated SSTV system are never activated.\n\nSorry for the donators but you will not be able to use your U/V system on the columbus amateur radio station. What it is even more curious \nis we are literally flooded with ARISS contact news and pretty soon with ARISSAT as the ARISS actual goals seems to be directed towards the \nsuit-sat II replacement. But what about this remaining columbus L/S transponder? did anyone got any news about the activation of the \nradio/transponder? what i was able to get is dated back in 2007. The funding never reach the intended target money wise nor project wise \ntoo. I just hope someone in ARISS or in the AMSAT'S will be able to come up with some fresh news? My greatest fear is this NORAIS will \nreplace the amateur radio project and they will vever use the actual L/S amateur patch antenna! I just hope someone will tell me that i'm \nwrong here. BUT if you read below an excerpt from the ARISS June 2009 it's not helping me dissipating my fears (Quote-2)\n\n\"VHF-UHF antennas\nMark Severance N5XWF gave an AIS presentation on the co-usage by ESA and ARISS of VHF antennas for AIS (Automatic Identification System), \nthe tracking system for ships.   STS-129 should be the shuttle mission associated with the space walk that will take place for the \nattachment of the antennas we will co-use.  NASA will be responsible for cost of the spacewalk. ESA will be responsible for the cost of the \ninstallation, for the cost of the clamp to install the antennas, and the cost for the integration of the clamp.\"\n\n\"Onboard equipment\nAt this annual meeting, we will discuss which radios to install in the Columbus module. The VHF Ericsson radio is on board in the Russian \nsegment. The UHF one, that has never been used, is in the JEM. We have one of the Kenwood D-700s, also. \nWe will get a great deal of help from NASA and ESA for the work on the safety certification and the cost of this, the cost for upmass, and \nthe expense for an operating location in the Columbus module.\"\n\nJust for the record STS-129 launch is planned for November 12 2009 and we are on the 14 of September!!!\n\nWhat it is the most disturbing is this section of the May 19 ARISS tele conference meeting  (Quote-3) \"Low upmass plans are more highly \nfavored, so re-use of existing on-orbit hardware will be a more favored approach. Finally, there will be technical discussions on the AIS \nand ARISS antennas and their installation on the outside of the Columbus module. The results of these discussions would be briefed to the \nARISS-I team during the joint ARWG/ARISS-I meeting on Wednesday morning. \"\n\nNot a single word on the L/S system or is the money donated will be use to fund a joint venture with a non amateur radio system?\n\nOn the July teleconference we can read (quote-4) \"At the meeting the most important topic was how we work with the space agencies education \noffice and installation of equipment on Columbus,\" All discussion where conducted behind close door?\n\nI just hope someone in the ARISS organization will be able to get my questioning and that he can give a long overdue update on the Columbus \namateur radio station project\n\nOn this 2008 presentation they are telling there is NOW a possibility to have a VHF/UHF whip? \nhttp://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/Meetings/2008_Moscow/Presentations/17_moscow2008Columbus_Project.pdf\n\nAnd digital ATV to improve the future ARISS session but where the equipment will be available to decoded amateur DATV signal when doppler \ncorrection will also be mandatory on this type of equipment? It is widely out of reach for an amateur stand point and we are heading \ntowards a near commercial type of system more than an amateur one.\n\nWe are facing a lot of outdated informations and very few fresh updated ones. A suggestion could be adding some fresh project news to the \nregular ARISS contact news list will help us to sort out a bit the mess.\n \n\n1-http://www.issfanclub.com/node/6824\n   http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus.htm\n\n2-http://www.rac.ca/ariss/ARISS-I 2009 Annual Mtg final edit minutes.doc\n\n3-http://www.rac.ca/ariss/arisstel2009-05-19.htm\n4-http://www.rac.ca/ariss/arisstel2009-07-21.htm\n\n\n\"-\"\n\n\nLuc Leblanc VE2DWE\nSkype VE2DWE\nwww.qsl.net/ve2dwe\nDSTAR urcall VE2DWE\nWAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE\n\n \n",
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