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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/VECJODOQEQ2A6YBIPM3DKF5PD3MXMXXL/?format=api",
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    "sender_name": "John Geiger",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: AMAST WAS and VUCC",
    "date": "2011-01-25T16:04:47Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/EU3MJUFKDTMIXMSONYVBYNCO3YJS2U6Z/?format=api",
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    "content": "It isn't just LOTW price shock, it is also paper QSL price shock, as the \nprice for using QSLs for a VUCC award or endorsement is outrageous.\n\n$40 or so for a basic 100 grid satellite VUCC?  And we want to get new hams \ninterested in the grid hunt?\n\n73s John AA5JG\n\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Bruce Robertson\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"AMSAT-BB\" <[email protected]>\nSent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:58 PM\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMAST WAS and VUCC\n\n\nOn Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:21 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:\n> OK everyone in favor of supporting AMSAT having a W.A.S and a VUCC lets \n> contact AMSAT with the request.I should have an effective start date\n> WA4HFN Damon\n\nI would be interested first in hearing what Bruce, KK5DO, thinks of\nthis idea, since he has the experience in both ARRL and AMSAT awards.\n\nMy initial concern is that this idea arrived in response to the LOTW\nprice schedule, which appears to have caused some sticker shock. That\nis, it seems to have been conceived as a less expensive means of\nachieving these awards.\n\nPut more broadly, I'm not sure that the rate schedule of one\nnot-for-profit organization is a good reason to shift a task over to\nanother not-for-profit organization. These are not for-profit\nbusinesses, who, in a capitalist model, should be encouraged to offer\nthe same service for better rates than their competition. Most of this\nlabour is volunteer in nature, and might be rather unsatisfying if it\nwere performed merely for the sake of a slightly better deal. Finally,\nwhile some unique awards program obviously fulfills the part of the\nAMSAT mission statement that reads \"promote the training and\ndevelopment of skilled satellite and ground system designers and\noperators,\" I can't see how a duplicate WAS or VUCC program really\ndoes so, especially since the years of experience with the ARRL awards\ndoes not suggest, by the number of recipients, that they have been a\ndriving force in training these operators and designers.\n\n73, Bruce\n\n-- \nhttp://ve9qrp.blogspot.com\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n\n",
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