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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/VSX2XOWDOLEXFYQ4ILLHPW2745AJPTSE/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "VSX2XOWDOLEXFYQ4ILLHPW2745AJPTSE", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/VSX2XOWDOLEXFYQ4ILLHPW2745AJPTSE/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "th.frey (a) vtxmail.ch", "mailman_id": "6008138868c34631bde25697fc2f5ce0", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/6008138868c34631bde25697fc2f5ce0/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Thomas Frey", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 9, Issue 36", "date": "2014-01-30T15:40:59Z", "parent": null, "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "[email protected] schrieb:\n> Message: 14 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:56:49 -0800 From: Bryce Salmi \n> <[email protected]> To: M5AKA <[email protected]> Cc: AMSAT BB \n> <[email protected]> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fw: [Forum] Launch \n> provider f?r P3E ? Message-ID: \n> <CAN5j0so4Rnx1TtYp-WTM0FzdsYOM56BeJMe2ps_VYNW8ch+X_Q@mail.gmail.com> \n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oftentimes there are paid \n> customers nowadays for first launches and yeah, even $10 million is a \n> steal depending on the size of the payload. Either way you must be \n> completely fine with the idea of loosing the satellite at launch... \n> There's a reason it would be discounted, heritage brings premiums! \n> Bryce On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, M5AKA <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> > But bear in mind the rocket has never flown before and it intends to use a\n>> > launch facility that doesn't exist yet.\n>> >\n>> > I suspect they'll still want $10 million or so, but yes it's good to see\n>> > more launch providers entering the market.\n>> >\n>> >\n>> > 73 Trevor M5AKA\n>> >\n>> >\n>> >\n>> >\n>> >\n>> > On Wednesday, 29 January 2014, 4:34, i8cvs<[email protected]<javascript:;>>\n>> > wrote:\n>> >\n>> > Hi All ,\n>> >\n>> > This roket seems to be suitable for P3E !\n>> >\n>> > http://www.alcantaracyclonespace.com/en/about/launch-vehicle\n>> >\n>> > Hallo Alle\n>> >\n>> > Dies k?nnte auch eine geeignete Rakete f?r unseren P3E sein:\n>> > http://www.alcantaracyclonespace.com/en/about/launch-vehicle\n>> >\n>> > Damit w?re die Finanzierungsfrage nat?rlich immer noch nicht gel?st.\n>> >\n>> > \nHello All\n\nI'm a member of AMSAT-DL since many years, since the days of AO-10 and\nAO-13. My understanding was and is, that AMSAT looks for discounted\nand cheaper launches and is aware of launch failures at first launches.\nSo I agree with Bryce. We have to be realistic, nobody want to pay\n10M $ for a launch. We also have to be patient, its Peter's long time\ngoal to bring P3E into a HEO.\n\n-- \n\nMit freundlichen Grüssen, Best Regards, 73\n Thomas Frey, HB9SKA\n______________________________________________________________________\n\n Thomas Frey, Holzgasse 2, CH-5242 Birr, Tel. + Fax: 056 444 93 41\n http://home.datacomm.ch/th.frey/\n\n", "attachments": [] }