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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/W5Y5EQ56KTRUGJ33ZVK7RDDUH5N2P4J6/",
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        "address": "hans.bx2abt (a) msa.hinet.net",
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    "sender_name": "Hans BX2ABT",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] fcd pro +",
    "date": "2019-05-15T14:54:26Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ER6HBBVHK2SHV2I7PUL4377MKNDQYWDR/",
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    "content": "You can open a case, but with proprietary components, designs and code \nlittle repair can be done. Chuck it in the bin and buy another. I come \nfrom a different era, where designs were documented and repairs could be \ndone by oneself or independent repair men. Products had a value that \nspanned more than a few years.\n\nSo yes, I am one of those in the ham community that thinks schematics \nand code should be \"handed to me\" (paraphrased from what you wrote \nbelow) when I request it. I know this goes against the interests of \ncompanies putting out products and nowadays it seems companies have more \nmight than consumers, so the companies win, the consumer loses.\n\nBut I agree with you that comments on this BB will not help with repairs \nor support in any way.\n\n73 de Hans\n\nBX2ABT\n\n\nOn 05/15/2019 10:24 PM, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote:\n> Think you jumped to conclusions Hans I didn't say I agreed with\n> anything I pointed out the fact, no access to repair has been stopped\n> you can open the case? I know ICOM/Kenwood don't provide the source\n> code, most electronics companies don't that's just how it is.\n>\n> Peter.\n>\n> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 14:48, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB\n> <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> The trend is to keep everything under lid and a secret and not share\n>> source code or schematics. You might agree with this, but when I spend\n>> money to buy something I own it and I want the right to repair and that\n>> means documentation. It used to be like that, because I can easily\n>> repair my old ham rigs from ICOM and Kenwood because they provide this\n>> kind of information. And yes, if there is no documentation then I will\n>> steer clear of buying that product or other products from that company.\n>> Thanks for the heads-up: will never buy a FCD+, that's for sure.\n>>\n>> Hans\n>>\n>> BX2ABT\n>>\n>>\n>> On 05/15/2019 09:27 PM, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) via AMSAT-BB wrote:\n>>> I'd guess that the first place to get support would be to email\n>>> Hanlincrest Ltd (Howard) who makes and supports the Funcube Dongle\n>>> email being [email protected], I don't think rewriting a comment on his\n>>> website is how anyone should expect to get support.\n>>>\n>>> Most commercial products don't provide schematic or access to firmware\n>>> code but for some reason, some of the ham radio community seems to\n>>> think they should be handed it.\n>>>\n>>> 73,\n>>>\n>>> Peter, 2M0SQL\n>>>\n>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 01:37, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB\n>>> <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>>> On 05/14/19 05:04, Nick Pugh via AMSAT-BB wrote:\n>>>>> My FCD Pro+ is broken how do I get it fixed?\n>>>>> Where can I get a schematic?\n>>>> Hello Nick,\n>>>>\n>>>> Howard Long, G6LVB, hasn't made a post on the funcubedongle.com website\n>>>> in ~4 years. He does not respond to comments on that website regarding\n>>>> the USB bugs in the FCDP+, so I don't think he'll be very responsive to\n>>>> broken hardware/schematic requests, either.\n>>>>\n>>>> Appealing directly to AMSAT-UK may have some effect.\n>>>>\n>>>> I believe that the secrecy surrounding this dongle stems from the NDA-ed\n>>>> silicon tuner and a desire to keep it from being cloned.\n>>>>\n>>>> It is unfortunate that such a wonderful gadget is both closed source and\n>>>> closed hardware.\n>>>>\n>>>> --- Zach\n>>>> N0ZGO\n>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n\n",
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