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        "address": "ke7osn (a) arrl.net",
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    "sender_name": "KE7OSN",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ?",
    "date": "2011-11-12T23:16:42Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QIHT27AXZ76SQA3IFYFRHZD5GEES5DSA/?format=api",
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    "content": "I would like to first say that yes, many of these Cubesats projects do a\nreally poor job of providing information about themselves and they have a\nlot of room for improvement.\n\nSecond that amateur bands are used not only for the fact that there are\nalready established ground stations, but because getting licensed on some\nother piece of spectrum is a substantial investment of time and money, and\nmany of the student projects simply don't have excessive reserves of\neither. Granted many of them would love to move off amateur bands, find a\nlittle open spectrum in the GHz range where they can blast data down at\nsome incredible speed, in which case they could move more data in a few\nseconds then they could collect in a day, which makes things many design\nissues much easier. Alas when you tell a student to start filling out\npaperwork that may get a response before they graduate, and until then\nthere isn't much they can do until they can lock down that parameter,\nchances are if they are smart they will run off to do something else like\nbuild a race car, or a robot and you loose someone else in the next\ngeneration of rocket scientist.\n\nThirdly I have been reading the AMSAT-BB's for several months and I can see\nwhy there wouldn't be many people working on CubeSats hanging around. In\norder for anything productive to come of discussions like this, people from\nthe CubeSat community need to be more involved but they aren't going to be\ninclined to do so when the conversations reads like dialog from \"Grumpy Old\nMen\". Nano and Pico Satellites aren't a simple evolution\nof existing technologies but a large paradigm shift, one which I don't\nthink anyone even now fully understands.  When you don't have\nthoughtful discussions between both sides issues don't get addressed, and\neveryone's feelings get hurt. I would suggest using cubesat.org as a\nstarting point.\n\n\nAnthony Odenthal\nKE7OSN\nPresident Amateur Radio Club at OSU\n\n\nOn Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 13:34, William Leijenaar <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Hi Stefan,\n>\n> So the answer on my question if my 433MHz toy car, when I put it into\n> space, can get an OSCAR number is YES!\n> According to the AMSAT website you mentioned of course... :-P\n> - My question was not specific if these satellites can or can't get an\n> OSCAR number.\n> My intention was more if they should be scheduled as a ham-sat (and with\n> that using ham frequencies).\n>\n> I would recommend you to read the following IARU website!\n> http://www.iaru.org/satellite/prospective.html\n> (especially section VI. OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES)\n> It says the following:\n>\n> \"Organisations building satellites should compare their mission plans to\n> the requirements of the amateur-satellite service. Then, they should\n> determine if it is possible to comply with the requirements of the\n> amateur-satellite service or if licensing and operation should be in\n> some other radio service which is more consistent with the nature and\n> requirements of the mission.\n>\n> A. The purposes of an amateur satellite should be:\n> (1) To provide communication resources for the general amateur radio\n> community and/or\n> (2) To conduct technical investigations in all respects consistent with\n> the Radio Regulations. [See RR S1.56 and RR S1.57.]\"\n>\n> I have great doubts with many off those CubeSats, if they comply to number\n> (1)....\n> The only communication resources they provide is for themselves by a cheap\n> downlink system, by using hams to receive data for them. This is not for\n> the general amateur radio community as mentioned in number (1)...\n>\n> The option they have is to go to \"some other radio service which is more\n> consistent with the nature and requirements of the mission.\"\n>\n> 73 de PE1RAH, William\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> >Would recommend reading the info on AMSAT's website!\n> > >http://www.amsat.org/amsat/amsat-na/oscar.html >\n> >Stefan, VE4NSA\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n",
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