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    "sender_name": "Diane Bruce",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)",
    "date": "2009-10-17T14:08:20Z",
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    "content": "On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:29:16PM -0500, Rocky Jones wrote:\n>\n> Mark\n>\n> the two points you raise are interesting\n>\n> Education...you wrote in part \"\n\n\"Yes, my new car failed to work so I had the local high school\nauto class work on it. It was quite an educational experience for them!\nThey learned a lot! I never did get to use it, but it sure was educational!\"\n\nThat is not what I would call a success. It is indeed true that when something\ngoes wrong in space, we have to grin and bear it, turning lemons into\nlemonade. etc. But to redefine what a success is, simply to put\na positive spin on a failure, is counterproductive. It seems to me that\nthe problems are acknowledged and are worked upon, makes more sense.\n\nI do not see the arguments for \"It was a success because of its educational\nvalue\" or \"We are incompetent because it was a failure\" to be of much\nlong term use either.\n\nI do see admitting mistakes were made and fixing them, everyone else out\nof the way, to be much more productive.\n\n>  Yes, we could kick a very\n> > basic linear transponder out of the ISS, and it would float around in\n> > LEO and allow you to make some contacts, but so what?  What purpose\n> > would be served?\n>\n> A great deal.  It would allow communications and experimentation and self teaching in ham radio which is the essence of the hobby.\n\nI would agree. Why not be able to do both?\n\n...\n\n>\n> Robert WB5MZO\n>\n>\n\n- 73 Diane VA3DB\n--\n- [email protected] http://www.db.net/~db\n",
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