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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/WQN2IJKRPKZZHS7CV2FKWHDQ77JL6EV2/?format=api",
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        "address": "dave (a) mynatt.biz",
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    "sender_name": "Dave",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb]  FW:  Re: The Moon is our Future",
    "date": "2009-07-03T16:46:14Z",
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    "content": " \nI do not understand and am asking for help understanding, why a long, slow,\nslingshot path to the moon isn't feasible. We don't need a direct shot, do\nwe, unless we do this all ourselves? If we go with someone else, we ride\ntheir mission so it doesn't matter what we want. But for total usefulness,\nit starts it's mission as a LEO, transitions to an HEO, and then becomes a\nlander. Three different missions, three different antenna systems, three\ndifferent opportunities to use it. What's wrong with that concept?\n\nNuc fuel, utilizing a tethered antenna floating above craft held in position\nby magnetics or coax, but not affixed to craft so that it can be adjusted\nwithout affecting the lander. A 4x4x4 plastic sheet for an antenna that when\nexpanded becomes a 20m semi-rigid antenna.\n\nMight as well use products already here tied to dreams.\n\nThis can work albeit slowly.\n\n\nDave\nDM78qd // KA0SWT\nIf it weren't for Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of television, we'd still be\neating frozen radio dinners.-- Johnny Carson\n+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n \n \n \n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Jeff Davis\nSent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:35 AM\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future\n\nOn Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:48:51AM -0600, Jack K. wrote:\n> communications anyway) and move forward... We can put up all the leos \n> we want, but until someone makes something like B. Bruninga's cell \n> concept work, we are only going to have more of the same, We don't \n> need more of the same!\n\nI couldn't agree more - we don't need more of the same.\n\nIf I want to sit back and have a two hour rag-chew with someone on the other\nside of the planet I will use Skype or my cell phone!\n\nDreaming about what *might* be in space is a fun exercise. Actually doing\nsomething about it requires sending things to LEO because reality has\ndictated that's as far as we can afford to go.\n\nHow's about we use some of that frustrated *imagineering* to come up with\ninteresting new concepts at LEO? We don't need any more FM repeaters buzzing\noverhead, but what about more cameras downloading HD images, scientific\npayloads that monitor the ongoing climate change, payloads to study the\nEarth's magnetic field, etc. etc. Our own 'Twitter' messaging network from\nspace...?\n\nThe Apollo 13 creed of \"failure is not an option\" has completely infected\nthe brains at AMSAT and this list. You want something at HEO or on the moon,\ncut a check for $15 million dollars and let's get on with it. Been waiting\nsince 1996 for another AO-13 and I am getting too old to keep waiting.\n\nAMSAT is becoming completely irrelevant as it strives without success for\nthe impossible mission and exhibits a shocking amount of leadership\nmalfesance as it stubbornly refuses to recognize and adapt to realities in\nthe launch business.\n\nI know, I know maybe NEXT year someone rich will die and leave us a boatload\nof cash. Or the bankrupt US government will suddenly cough up a billion\ndollars for some orbiting emergency communication system. In the meantime we\nhave to stifle the truth because it might blow yet another *secret* deal\nthat's in the works and *almost* a done deal, so let's not complain publicly\nand ruin it.\n\nHeard the stories, heard the lies, got all the t-shirts and ball caps.\nWhatever. \n\n--\nJeff, KE9V\nAMSAT-NA member since 1994,\nSkeptic that we will ever go back to HEO since 2002\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n",
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