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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/WVBI26UC5BRWAK66T6JO55UHZ7U7II3Z/",
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        "address": "k7zt (a) suddenlink.net",
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    "sender_name": "Joe Westbrook",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb]  Fw:  Re: [eu-amsat] AMSAT UK P3E Lecture Available",
    "date": "2008-08-10T21:28:58Z",
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    "content": "\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Joe Westbrook\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"John B. Stephensen\" <[email protected]>; \"Luc Leblanc\" \n<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>\nCc: <[email protected]>\nSent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:32 AM\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [eu-amsat] AMSAT UK P3E Lecture Available\n\n\n> John:\n> Yes, you may have heard statements like in the past we've relied on \n> charity, and Amateur Radio Operators alone can not fund a launch, what you \n> haven't heard are any solutions for launching any HEOs.  It seems that the \n> DL folks haven't lost that as a focus, they acknowledge that as expensive \n> as it is to launch an HEO, it is still doable. 3 - 4M Euros $4 - 5M at \n> least they gave us a tangible figure we can work with.  This amount may be \n> a reach for AMSAT-NA alone, but given that we finally understand what it \n> would take to make a HEO Launch reality, then why wouldn't we shift ALL \n> funding toward that effort?    Following the PE3 launch, if  any surplus \n> remains, the surplus could be transferred to the next HEO opportunity \n> (Eagle).  If no surplus remains then at least we would have one working \n> HEO deployed.\n>\n> Additionally, at least we know the PE3 platform is well vetted, and would \n> have the lowest risk.  Rather than spending time and resources on a new, \n> untested platform why wouldn't we just facilitate PE3 FIRST?\n>\n> Ok, I'll speech for myself here, but the GEO ride-share simply isn't an \n> opportunity that will interest the HEO crowd.  Launching an appliance to \n> serve the disaster response community and entry level satellite users \n> won't do a thing to satisfy the need for a HEO.  I don't care if it's \n> free, like AO51, I would probably get on it, make a couple contacts say \n> \"that's nice\" and be done with it.  Please understand, I'm not saying to \n> abandon GEO as a viable option, just don't spend a cent on it until we \n> launch an HEO.\n>\n> What we need is a satellite that enables the real sprit and intent of the \n> Amateur Radio Service, to push the envelop of the technology, allow for \n> experimentation, consider all of the alternative antenna solutions that \n> our resourceful community developed to receive the 2.4Gig Down Link. No \n> rotator required, different feed systems, a fairly modest resource outlay \n> to get on the air.  I did it with a totally home brewed system in a \n> restricted neighborhood back yard. Had a blast and learned allot.\n>\n> ----- Original Message ----- \n> From: \"John B. Stephensen\" <[email protected]>\n> To: \"Luc Leblanc\" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>\n> Cc: <[email protected]>\n> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:14 PM\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [eu-amsat] AMSAT UK P3E Lecture Available\n>\n>\n>> I've been hearing these two statments from AMSAT-NA officals for at least \n>> 2\n>> years -- in person and on this BB.\n>>\n>> 73,\n>>\n>> John\n>> KD6OZH\n>>\n>> ----- Original Message ----- \n>> From: \"Luc Leblanc\" <[email protected]>\n>>>\n>>> Very nice presentations. One attract my attention was made by Peter\n>>> Guelzow DB2OS one one of his slide we can read:\n>>>\n>>> ATTRACTIVENESS OF AMATEUR RADIO HAS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY\n>>>\n>>> FUNDING A SATELLITE FROM AMATEUR RESSOURCES ALONE NEVER WORKED BEFORE \n>>> AND\n>>> WILL NOT WORK NOW.\n>>>\n>>> I don't how to explain how all the wisdom and reality knowledge seems to\n>>> be concentrated in Europe when speaking about amateur satellite?\n>>\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n>> program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n\n",
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