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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/X2DZBF6BRAFIQ7QG3Q5SW3KNWRGDGMHX/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CANq+eyVX1MQtQZ5pLQk7tqhyf3qUS1PaMrvCZfNNWeVH47ZrKg@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "X2DZBF6BRAFIQ7QG3Q5SW3KNWRGDGMHX", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/TYJSDWGOL2BTKP2CO4HHU7NHDWS33IQQ/", "sender": { "address": "dave (a) druidnetworks.com", "mailman_id": "3b01b396750a47f287ea0c65babd40ea", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/3b01b396750a47f287ea0c65babd40ea/emails/" }, "sender_name": "David Swanson", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Behavior on FM Satellites", "date": "2017-12-10T23:46:22Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/R5CQCRLV7VANLTPCOOLH3ADMB56DDXCZ/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "I want to further elaborate on Matt's point he just made. I'm very likely\nthe number one suspect when talk of 'calling out' people comes up - and I\nfully admit to it as well. I am also quite often accused of 'noob bashing'\nfor the comments I've made on the BB and the different social media\nplatforms. With very few notable exceptions, the people I've called out\nhave been hams longer than I have been alive, let alone operating on\nsatellites. I've only had my ticket for 3 1/2 years, so by most accounts\nI'm just as 'noob' as the folks that think they're under perceived attack\nwhen the other 'class' of operators make comments about bad operating\netiquette.\n\nSo, let me just say this - as plainly as I can for everyone to see: New\noperators are not the problem. A clear majority of the rovers are 'newer'\noperators, both in AMSAT and in Ham in general. I was given my 488th CONUS\ngrid by a guy who is FM only, had been operating a few months, and was\nworking me from a rare grid *on an anniversary trip* with his wife. That is\nthe kind of dedication ONLY a die hard new guy will have. The new operators\nare the ones that flock to social media for the latest gear reviews and\ncamaraderie with other ops. They're the ones asking about whether an arrow\nor an elk is best, and what kind of radios to buy. They're the ones pushing\nthe vendors to build new stuff, and keeping the used market alive for\nSatellite rigs. And they're the ones that are *really* active on the birds.\nI would dare say the majority of the ops that I work on a regular basis\nhave been doing sats for less time than me, and that's great. I love it -\nso much new blood is constantly changing things every day and that keeps it\nexciting. New operators rock. I sincerely mean that.\n\nOn the flip side, you have a class of operator that \"has been doing this\nsince sputnik\" and thinks the current fleet of LEO's needs an AO-13 class\narray to be successful. This class of op might also run 100W into an Omni,\ncause that's the only way they can 'hear' their owns beeps coming down off\nof AO-7, which they might have watched get launched, and will tell you\nabout when you send them an email asking why they're running so much\npower. This class of op might also be amazed that they can actually hear\nthe newly launched AO-91 using their radio shack rg174 coax fed eggbeater,\nand is excited to talk to the same neighbor day after day, because it's the\nfirst bird since AO-51 they can brute force their way into with the power\nthat they're obligated to run since they've been a ham for 20 years. I have\nyet to run into a new ham that has caused AO-7 to reset with an arrow and a\npair of Baofengs, yet I can name 5 old hams right off the top of my head\nthat do it pretty much consistently, in every year since I've been\noperating. This kind of op is the problem. And I will not hesitate to\n(continue) to call these kinds of bad apples out for their deliberate\ninterference with this hobby.\n\n-Dave, KG5CCI\n", "attachments": [] }