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    "sender_name": "Bruce Robertson",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ITAR is interesting to me",
    "date": "2009-10-19T11:38:57Z",
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    "content": "Thank-you, Daniel for this helpful reply. Your 'diode' analogy was excellent.\n\nUsing the links provided by Samudra above, I was able to find some\nparts of ITAR that exempt Canada. Specifically, 126.5(b), which in\nturn has restrictions on *it* in the following passages. One of these\nrestrictions is on \"all spacecraft in category XV(a) except commercial\nsatellites\". This is a bit frustrating, since it seems likely that the\nregulation means by 'commercial satellites' 'satellites with no\nnational security implications'; but for we amateurs, if we read the\nletter of the law, 'commercial' excludes us as an apparent\nside-effect.\n\nI fully admit that I might have misunderstood the regulations, since\nthey are, quite appropriately, written in a particular sub-dialect of\nlegal language. Obviously any speculation on this list is no\nsubstitution for the professional opinion of a lawyer.\n\nFinally, let me say that I really appreciate the board tackling this\nissue so directly. It must seem pretty tangential to the corp's larger\nproject, and I know if I were in their shoes I'd find it rather\nfrustrating work.\n\n73, Bruce\nVE9QRP\n\nOn Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Daniel Kekez <[email protected]> wrote:\n> Bruce Robertson wrote:\n>>  Given that AMSAT-NA is by definition a collaboration between amateurs\n>> on both sides of the US/Canada border, do we have a clear idea where\n>> ITAR stands with respect to Canadian collaborators? I know that in\n>> 1999 the previous exemption was revoked, but that in 2001 there were\n>> some changes again.\n>\n> To the best of my knowledge, Canada holds no special status with regard\n> to ITAR.\n>\n> Consider ITAR to be a \"goods and information diode\": Canada can sell\n> space technology to an American company and can provide information.\n> However, the American company cannot describe their application in\n> detail or send any information North of the border without a Technical\n> Assistance Agreement in place between the particular organizations. And\n> US export permits are needed to send space technology to Canada.\n>\n> Furthermore, if a Canadian company wishes to use US technology on a\n> Canadian satellite and then launch with foreign launcher, the country\n> from which the launch takes place must also be specified (and approved)\n> on the US Export Permit. The US State department must be satisfied that\n> all precautions are being taken to protect the technology when it is in\n> a foreign country.\n>\n> Canada does have its own restrictions for space technology under the\n> Controlled Goods Program legislated by the Defence Production Act. And\n> export permits are needed when sending space technology outside of the\n> country. The process, however, is far less onerous than ITAR. Details on\n> the Canadian system can be found at\n> http://www.ssi-iss.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/dmc-cgd/apropos-about/apercu-overview-eng.html\n>\n> 73,\n> -Daniel, VA3KKZ\n>\n>\n\n",
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