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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XIQRIAAGHYFDEDLW4FDBHVTGDWMVVUGZ/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "XIQRIAAGHYFDEDLW4FDBHVTGDWMVVUGZ", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/XIQRIAAGHYFDEDLW4FDBHVTGDWMVVUGZ/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "kf6kyi (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Mark VandeWettering", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)", "date": "2009-10-16T18:55:06Z", "parent": null, "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/BYWUJG5BXLJKLUAXOYAAC3LLKNJACML5/?format=api", "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/WAJ6DKQ662TXWH4CJMUUHR5GFR57JS43/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "I'll limit my comments to two issues:\n\n> Ham radio is about communicating. If we want to turn its primary task into\n> \"education\" then it will look very very different.\n\nPart 97.1 tells us what the intended (not always realized, it must be\nsaid) purpose of amateur radio is. it certainly is intended to be a\ncommunication service, but the regulations also recognize the\nimportance of education in Part 97.1(c):\n\n(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules\nwhich provide for advancing skills in both the communications and\ntechnical phases of the art.\n\nEducation (particularly self-education) has always been a principle of\namateur radio. Indeed, from 97.3(a)(4), the definition of amateur\nservice:\n\n (4) Amateur service. A radiocommunication service for the purpose of\nself-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried\nout by amateurs, that is, duly authorized persons interested in radio\ntechnique solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest.\n\nIt does list \"intercommunication\", but it also lists \"self-training\"\nand \"technical investigations\", which certainly have a clear\neducational mandate. I admit that most hams don't seem to take this\neducational mandate very seriously, but it is there, and I applaud\nAMSAT in their educational efforts. In the grand scheme of things, I\nthink having school kids talk to astronauts in orbit probably does\nmore social good than allowing hams work DX.\n\nSecondly, regarding the chances of success of ARISS-Sat-1, first, I\nhope you are wrong. I hope it is successful, and that the SDX\ntransponder provides some unique opportunities for radio amateurs.\nAs to whether flying such a payload is a reasonable use of this rare\nlaunch opportunity, I think it clearly is. Yes, we could kick a very\nbasic linear transponder out of the ISS, and it would float around in\nLEO and allow you to make some contacts, but so what? What purpose\nwould be served? To get to _affordable_ amateur satellites, we have\nto find a way to actually pay for launches. This means (among other\nthings) limiting mass, and that means relying on the benefits that\ndigital control can in controlling and minimizing power consumption.\n You can't just run a bent pipe transponder on a 1U cubesat and expect\nanything useful to develop. We need to think\n\nRobert also mentioned the decreasing satellite population. It isn't\ndecreasing because satellites are becoming more expensive: indeed, as\nBob Bruninga has pointed out, the actual hardware costs of satellites\nhave fallen dramatically. The problem is that we can't get people to\ndonate free launches to get our stuff into orbit. AO-10 had a mass\nof about 90kg. Arianspace wants 1.8 million euros to launch that\ninto HEO orbit. The cost of the development and construction of the\nsatellite is just the smallest fraction of that cost. To make\nsatellite launches affordable, we need to figure out new ways to\nshrink the mass, provide careful power control, and either accept\nlower orbits or figure out new ways to boost satellites to higher\norbits (I find the micropropulsion work to be very interesting).\n\nIt's a pity we can't harness the power of complaining to boost things\nto orbit...\n\n73 Mark K6HX\n", "attachments": [] }