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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XKDVJ2YLN7B7HGWYTNQWG4XUOSUPJXB4/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/FEBDCQJ3PAKZ6UFGO4JPZNHRAZYXDDMR/",
    "sender": {
        "address": "kf4otn (a) ericsatcom.net",
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    "sender_name": "Eric H. Christensen",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: S band downlink on P3E",
    "date": "2006-09-08T11:41:14Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/SLKKCMBK3QQCSQWGVC6T6PLAE5WE6AVX/",
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    "content": "Who is designing the ground equipment?  It sounds like someone has a  \nget-rich-quick scheme up their sleeve...\n\n73s,\nEric KF4OTN\[email protected]\nhttp://www.ericsatcom.net\n\n\nQuoting AL7CR <[email protected]>:\n\n> I too totally agree.  I see no reason why we can not vote on the\n> designers decision with our support dollars.  Personally, I am giving\n> all mine to P3E.\n>\n> The fact that they are \"designing the ground equipment too\" is of no\n> comfort to me.  My S band gear is on the tower and operating.\n>\n> If AMSAT thinks this is such a great decision then let them find the\n> money to support it without the majority of us.\n>\n> Dean Shutt\n> AL7CR\n>\n>\n> [email protected] wrote:\n>> I totally agree with you.\n>>\n>> Les W4SCO\n>>\n>> At 02:38 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:\n>>\n>>> Rick,\n>>>\n>>> I am in _TOTAL_ agreement. I live in the suburbs of Tampa/St. Pete  \n>>>  and never\n>>> had an interference problem on my 3 foot dish. I have used the same dish to\n>>> log well over a dozen WiFi access points in that immediate neighborhood.\n>>> With properly designed equipment, all that trash on 2.4 ghz goes away with\n>>> some elevation. What won't work is helixes with multiple sidelobes, and\n>>> surplus dishes that let one whole polarity of noise right thru the back.\n>>>\n>>> Everyone knows I'm a big supporter of AMSAT, but I gotta call it as I see\n>>> it. It makes me think of \"bait and switch\" to collect money for a project\n>>> featuring such a popular mode and then drop it.\n>>>\n>>> The loss of Mode B on AO-40 caused a lot of the hardcore AO-10/AO-13 types\n>>> to walk away, and that was tough to overcome. Now that we have, and we have\n>>> people wanting S band, we leave them behind too. Even if it's a sound\n>>> engineering decision (and that hasn't been proven to me) it's a horrid\n>>> marketing decision. Bad mojo for a organization that lives on the donations\n>>> of it's members.\n>>>\n>>> Sorry if this causes any pain to those involved with Eagle, but I needed to\n>>> get it off my chest.\n>>>\n>>> 73, Drew KO4MA\n>>> AMSAT LM 2332\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>> While AO-40 was still alive and I was working it from deep within \"Silicon\n>>>> Valley\", an area blanketed by WiFi, 2.4GHz cordless phones, etc., I\n>>>> discovered that a parabolic dish with a properly positioned and designed\n>>>> patch feed (slightly under-illuminating the dish and having no significant\n>>>> side-lobes) would bring in AO-40's S-band downlink very nicely   \n>>>> and cleanly.\n>>>\n>>>> Of course, other feed or antenna types such as helical antennas/feeds were\n>>>> useless in that environment.\n>>>\n>>>> I have to admit that I don't buy the \"too noisy\" argument.\n>>>\n>>>> 73,\n>>>\n>>>> Rick\n>>>> KG6IAL\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>>\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n\n\n",
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