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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XSAZZL37HVRSLLZ4OXYV7GMOGQHMPXIV/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/QX2LALHVGMOFEAIA5A7S7GBOBPTL3NQ7/",
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        "address": "kk5do (a) amsat.org",
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    "sender_name": "Bruce",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Grids and QSL´s",
    "date": "2010-07-21T15:52:38Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QX2LALHVGMOFEAIA5A7S7GBOBPTL3NQ7/",
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    "content": "  Here is the rule from the ARRL website on VUCC grid squares....\n\n(e) Stations who claim to operate from more than one grid locator \nsimultaneously (i.e., from the boundary between two\ngrid locators or from the intersection of four grid locators) must be \nphysically present in all locators to give multiple\nlocator credit with a single contact. These stations should be prepared \nto validate their claim. For a mobile station, this\nmeans parking the vehicle exactly on the line or corner. For a portable \nstation, this means that the total area occupied\nby the station's physical setup, including operating position(s), power \nsource(s), and antenna(s), must occupy some\nportion of each of the two/four grid squares simultaneously. Operators \nof boundary/corner stations should be prepared\nto provide evidence of meeting the simultaneous occupation test if \ncalled upon to do so. Two photographs -- one\nshowing the placement of the GPS receiver in the station setup, and a \nclose-up legibly showing the GPS reading –\nare typically needed as evidence of compliance. Video footage showing an \noverview of the operating site and then,\nuncut and in real time, zooming in on the GPS display coordinates is \neven better.\n\n\nIn other words.... if called upon to verify you were there, you will \nhave to provide the picture at that time. If it is not provided, the \nARRL could do one of many sanctions at their discretion... they could \nremove all credits from hams you gave the grid squares to, they could \nban you from further participation in the program. I seriously doubt \nthey would ban you however, if everyone plays by the same rules, then it \nis a fair playing field. I would suspect the rule came about when people \nsaid 'I am close to the grid square boundary, but that cliff makes it \nimpossible for me to move 2 more feet.' You know how that goes. Notice \nthey said 'uncut and in real time....' that way you cannot go back on \nanother day and just take a picture of your GPS.\n\n73...bruce\n(ARRL VUCC award checker)\n\n\nOn 7/21/2010 10:22 AM, David Maciel wrote:\n> I have a question maybe silly to many, I have traveled  three times in the  past  two months to the grid  EK34  and EK44,\n> take my portable radio equipment, do not  work because  my  GPS  was damaged and another time I forget, but I'm sure\n> the position where I was,  may  be  valid  if these grids  work  and send  my QSL  with the  coordinates  where you work?\n> no photo of my gps? I have received many cards from American stations QSL writing grid over your home to put the new\n> grid that time. this is valid? can be done? I have also contacted many stations and sent my QSL card with a photo of the\n> coordinates, I think is best, but not always possible, this'm glad because I think that  means  that the word  amateur is a\n> great value. not if I explain.I had no problems for the ARRL accept these cards an American amateur, whatever the same\n> if that makes a Mexican ham? or any other country? thanks for help.\n>\n>\n>\n> XE3DX\n> David Maciel\n> [email protected]\n> www.qsl.net/xe3dx/\n> Amateur Ham Radio\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n-- \n\nBruce Paige, KK5DO\n\nAMSAT Director Contests and Awards\n\nARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE\n\nHouston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*\nAlso live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com\nPodcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes\n\nLatest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News\nhttp://www.arrl.org\n\nAMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat\n\n\n\n",
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