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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XUF3KU7NCWW6TOIT2BEBC3UMQQDV6AHR/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CAJUhCTN2m1xpeWcL7_6E_4LmKFrdArnXJpnmzbmftmdnxRdu6A@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "XUF3KU7NCWW6TOIT2BEBC3UMQQDV6AHR", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/SFOJZC23TNLQVE522WVHDCKGZYNMNL7V/", "sender": { "address": "normanlizeth (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Norm n3ykf", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation?", "date": "2017-03-10T16:18:44Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HONA624AEEULZRBYF5II5RIYIYJM7EF3/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "FT-51 will do full duplex on satellite. Duplexer isolation leaves much\nto be desired. Moderately usable on AO-51. Useless on SO-50, though.\n\nI vote for the FT-50 and FT-51. Personally use both.\n\nNorm n3ykf<div id=\"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2\"><br />\n<table style=\"border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;\">\n\t<tr>\n <td style=\"width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;\"><a\nhref=\"http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail\"\ntarget=\"_blank\"><img\nsrc=\"https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png\"\nwidth=\"46\" height=\"29\" style=\"width: 46px; height: 29px;\" /></a></td>\n\t\t<td style=\"width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e;\nfont-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\nline-height: 18px;\">Virus-free. <a\nhref=\"http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail\"\ntarget=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #4453ea;\">www.avg.com</a>\n\t\t</td>\n\t</tr>\n</table><a href=\"#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2\" width=\"1\"\nheight=\"1\"></a></div>\n\nOn Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Skyler F <[email protected]> wrote:\n> I find it annoying that lots of the American HT's don't support cross-band\n> channels. For sure, not the new Icoms, don't think the TH-F6, but all\n> Chinese radios I have played with will do split band channels.\n>\n>\n> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Tucker McGuire <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n>\n>> My FT-530 most certainly does true full duplex on mode B and mode J. You\n>> must be misinformed on the features of these HT's.\n>>\n>> Cheers & 73,\n>> Tucker\n>> W4FS\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>> On Mar 9, 2017 6:55 PM, \"Gabriel Zeifman\" <[email protected]>\n>> wrote:\n>>\n>> Even the $30 Baofengs support cross-band memories for sat operations.\n>> That's how I started, but as Paul said, half-duplex on FM should not be\n>> condoned now, especially as our FM birds get more and more crowded and it\n>> becomes just an additional source of QRM.\n>>\n>> I've been very happy with my D72A. Packet is a nice feature to have to work\n>> ISS and NO-84.\n>>\n>> 73,\n>> Gabe\n>> NJ7H\n>>\n>> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> >\n>> > You are simply wrong. The Kenwood TH-D72, D7, D7(G) as well as the Yaesu\n>> > FT-470 and FT-530 all are excellent full-duplex HTs with no desense.\n>> >\n>> > It appears you are suggesting that people operate half-duplex. That can\n>> > work somewhat, but is definitely not something I would ever recommend.\n>> >\n>> > 73,\n>> >\n>> > Paul, N8HM\n>> >\n>> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 18:25 Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <\n>> [email protected]>\n>> > wrote:\n>> >\n>> >> Message: 10\n>> >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:17:14 -0500\n>> >> From: Tucker McGuire <[email protected]>\n>> >> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]>\n>> >> Cc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\n>> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation? This is a\n>> loaded\n>> >> questions and every HAM I've ever met has opinions...\n>> >> It is better to ask what HT's fit SAT OPs functionality:\n>> >>\n>> >> Everyone wants 'full duplex', I've not seen a dual-band HT that can do\n>> >> 'real' RX while the PTT is pushed, period!\n>> >>\n>> >> Nest shoot for - What dual-band HT can program SAT offsets (in the SAME\n>> >> single memory)?\n>> >> My definition: in one memory can program both 2m-RX AND 70cm-PTT or\n>> >> vice-versa.\n>> >> Why: you only need say 4 or 5 memories per SAT for AOS/LOS OPs - one\n>> less\n>> >> hand needed and far less hassle. I know Yaesu and Wuoxon can do this\n>> via\n>> >> PC Program. Kwood TH-F6, Icom IC-91/T8, Alinco G7 cannot they can do it\n>> >> only via flipping the A/B Bands (pain in the butt) - they do not allow\n>> >> cross band offsets in memory.\n>> >>\n>> >> Now another BAD issue with Yeasu & Wuoxun is they both have a high\n>> >> discharge rate of battery when in the OFF state. I found if I leave my\n>> HT's\n>> >> on the shelf for +60days I must isolate the battery for the radio to\n>> >> eliminate wasteful discharging dropp[ing a B-Meter bar. I do this by\n>> using\n>> >> a 'paper' business-card cut it to size, sandwich between the battery and\n>> HT\n>> >> - isolating the battery contacts. Easy, simple, effective, cheap - what\n>> HAM\n>> >> Radio is all about.\n>> >>\n>> >> Best regards,\n>> >> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX\n>> >> Sidney, OH 45365 EN70vh\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs\n>> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA\n>> >> _______________________________________________\n>> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>> Opinions\n>> >> expressed\n>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> >> AMSAT-NA.\n>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>> program!\n>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> >>\n>> > _______________________________________________\n>> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>> Opinions expressed\n>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>> program!\n>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>> Sent from my iPad\n>>\n>> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> >\n>> > You are simply wrong. The Kenwood TH-D72, D7, D7(G) as well as the Yaesu\n>> > FT-470 and FT-530 all are excellent full-duplex HTs with no desense.\n>> >\n>> > It appears you are suggesting that people operate half-duplex. That can\n>> > work somewhat, but is definitely not something I would ever recommend.\n>> >\n>> > 73,\n>> >\n>> > Paul, N8HM\n>> >\n>> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 18:25 Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <\n>> [email protected]>\n>> > wrote:\n>> >\n>> >> Message: 10\n>> >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:17:14 -0500\n>> >> From: Tucker McGuire <[email protected]>\n>> >> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]>\n>> >> Cc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\n>> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation? This is a\n>> loaded\n>> >> questions and every HAM I've ever met has opinions...\n>> >> It is better to ask what HT's fit SAT OPs functionality:\n>> >>\n>> >> Everyone wants 'full duplex', I've not seen a dual-band HT that can do\n>> >> 'real' RX while the PTT is pushed, period!\n>> >>\n>> >> Nest shoot for - What dual-band HT can program SAT offsets (in the SAME\n>> >> single memory)?\n>> >> My definition: in one memory can program both 2m-RX AND 70cm-PTT or\n>> >> vice-versa.\n>> >> Why: you only need say 4 or 5 memories per SAT for AOS/LOS OPs - one\n>> less\n>> >> hand needed and far less hassle. I know Yaesu and Wuoxon can do this\n>> via\n>> >> PC Program. Kwood TH-F6, Icom IC-91/T8, Alinco G7 cannot they can do it\n>> >> only via flipping the A/B Bands (pain in the butt) - they do not allow\n>> >> cross band offsets in memory.\n>> >>\n>> >> Now another BAD issue with Yeasu & Wuoxun is they both have a high\n>> >> discharge rate of battery when in the OFF state. I found if I leave my\n>> HT's\n>> >> on the shelf for +60days I must isolate the battery for the radio to\n>> >> eliminate wasteful discharging dropp[ing a B-Meter bar. I do this by\n>> using\n>> >> a 'paper' business-card cut it to size, sandwich between the battery and\n>> HT\n>> >> - isolating the battery contacts. Easy, simple, effective, cheap - what\n>> HAM\n>> >> Radio is all about.\n>> >>\n>> >> Best regards,\n>> >> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX\n>> >> Sidney, OH 45365 EN70vh\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs\n>> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA\n>> >> _______________________________________________\n>> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>> Opinions\n>> >> expressed\n>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> >> AMSAT-NA.\n>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>> program!\n>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> >>\n>> > _______________________________________________\n>> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>> Opinions expressed\n>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>> program!\n>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n>> expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n>> expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>\n>\n>\n> --\n> Skyler Fennell\n> amsatnet.info\n> KDØWHB\n> [email protected]\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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