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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YIPQ3LP2UXX7HIII5DQCL7W7LI3N7YGY/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "YIPQ3LP2UXX7HIII5DQCL7W7LI3N7YGY", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/2GKHG3YVB7PYBHIQ7AH7OTAECM57B2VX/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "myles.landstein (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "cb9b30d952874ae18d5acc7eda29ec0e", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/cb9b30d952874ae18d5acc7eda29ec0e/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "myles landstein", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Geostationary Satellites", "date": "2011-10-11T01:21:28Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/54LQTYSMPQGDV6UTC2VX7XLWIW4A52PT/?format=api", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "I am 300million short and have no experience raising capital, but if (and I guess there isn't any way for hams to raise 300mil), there was, I'd volunteer to do as much as I could ... \n\n Maybe that means soldering boards all night, or passing out a tin cup for donations .... \n\nbut I'd do what I could...as a volunteer \n\nmaybe one day something will make going geo possible <shrugs> \n\nWas that estimated 300mil for the entire bird? Would it be less to just be a package (perhaps of a few) on a commercial sat?\n\nN2EHG\n\n\n\n\nOn Oct 10, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:\n\n> Numbers for just the cost of an Amateur payload, or numbers for the whole satellite?\n> \n> A 'typical' satellite costs from 150 million to 300 million, depending on what hardware it carries.\n> \n> The cost of a launch to Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit ranges from 95 million to 150 million depending on the launch provider.\n> \n> Jim KQ6EA\n> \n> On 10/10/2011 10:41 PM, Tom Schaefer, NY4I wrote:\n>> Has anyone run the numbers? Are we talking 20 million, 100 million?\n>> \n>> Let's see, there are at best 5000 satellite ops. So, if it cost $20,000,000 we are each in it for $4000. I'm game. Now to convince 4999 of my friends. :)\n>> \n>> Seriously, you think it gets boring talking to us same guys on AO-51 each day? Try that for a giant repeater in space. That would be wide area. I know we hear that something like P3D would just cost too much, but this is a lot of dough to talk to friends across the country at drive time. The wider orbits make for more interesting conversations. Not that I don;t want to talk to you every day :)\n>> \n>> \n>> Tom\n>> \n>> \n>> Tom Schaefer, NY4I\n>> [email protected]\n>> EL88pb\n>> Monitoring EchoLink node KJ4FEC-L 489389\n>> DSTAR Capable APRS: NY4I-15\n>> \n>> \n>> \n>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Alan P. Biddle wrote:\n>> \n>>> Don,\n>>> \n>>> Cost, which is enough to drop any other issues to noise level. That is the\n>>> High Rent District, and given how much the commercial users pay, they would\n>>> not want to have an \"amateur\" satellite wandering around. More practically,\n>>> it would be nice to have a package on a commercial satellite. They provide\n>>> the power, pointing, and control. We just provide the RF. Again, cost,\n>>> though we have been looking for the right opportunity.\n>>> \n>>> Another drawback is that a geosynch only provides coverage to _about_ a\n>>> third of the earth, and it is always the same third. Birds like AO-13 and\n>>> AO-40 covered just about all of it over the space of a few days. Did I\n>>> mention cost? It is fun to think about having 3 which could be linked for\n>>> true global coverage.\n>>> \n>>> Alan\n>>> WA4SCA\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> -----Original Message-----\n>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\n>>> Behalf Of ka9qjg\n>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:23 PM\n>>> To: [email protected]\n>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Geostationary Satellites\n>>> \n>>> Hello Hope Everyone is doing Well, I know people say no such thing as a dumb\n>>> question So here goes What is the reason We do not have any Type of\n>>> geostationary Satellites. Is it because they are for World Wide Use and If\n>>> stationary one could Hit it 24/7 and Maybe park there butt on it and Run a\n>>> Beam and Amp and take it over\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> \n>>> Thanks\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> \n>>> 73 De Don KA9QJG\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> \n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> \n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n", "attachments": [] }