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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YPMHQMLDZCY2BRPBSLP3D3VANL3GSQUA/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "YPMHQMLDZCY2BRPBSLP3D3VANL3GSQUA", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/YPMHQMLDZCY2BRPBSLP3D3VANL3GSQUA/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "AJ9N (a) aol.com", "mailman_id": "6748fe033a084371b465a1468321b4ea", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/6748fe033a084371b465a1468321b4ea/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "[email protected]", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ARISS Opportunity...", "date": "2008-06-29T22:24:15Z", "parent": null, "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hi all,\n\nI listened to the Robinson contact via the IRLP Discovery Reflector on the \nInternet on the 25th. Several of the other ARISS mentors also listened in. \nNancy WH6PN did her normal outstanding job. At our weekly telecon meeting \nlater that same day we did discuss the audio levels and time delays; something \nwe always discuss after a telebridge contact.\n\nFor this contact there was a delay of about 5.5 to 6 minutes between real \ntime and when it came across the Internet. So if one was listening only at the \nreal time AOS and gave up after a minute or 2; then you would have missed \nthe contact. There is always about a 5 minute delay of the audio when it comes \nacross the Internet. I believe that if you are listening in on an IRLP \nrepeater that the audio is delayed only a few seconds.\n\nAt the moment we have had 350 successful contacts. I believe we have had 3 \ncontacts that were deemed outright failures. We have had I think 2 or 3 that \nwere considered failures on the scheduled contact day but were rescheduled \nand were successful on the 2nd attempt. ARISS says congratulations to all of \nthe school groups and hams around the world who have made that happen. Often \ntimes, that is the first satellite contact for the hams.\n\nWhen Kenneth or I post the ARISS announcements, we do try to indicate if \nEcholink or IRLP will be included but often times it is a last minute decision. \nIf it is a telebridge contact, then the odds are pretty high that it will be \non one or both. If it is a direct contact, then it is up to the ham group \ndoing the contact to decide if they want to feed audio to IRLP, Echolink, or \nto their own webpage as it is an extra burden on them. ARISS does not require \na group to do a simulcast but does encourage it. If we know it might \nhappen, then I usually indicate \"watch\". If we know it is going to happen, the I \nusually indicate \"should be\" or something along those lines.\n\nAs far as NASA TV providing coverage, we have been told to not expect it and \nnot to ask for it. Remember ARISS is a guest on the ISS and we don't want \nto wear out our welcome. So ARISS does not request coverage. If on the oft \nchance that a camera does show an ARISS contact in progress, then consider it \na blessing.\n\nHope this helps. ARISS encourages everyone to find a school, fill out the \napplication, and get on the waiting list. I think you will find it a great \nexperience. Think of it as your most tension filled Field Day that you will \never do. Plan on anywhere from 500 to 700 people hours; all of this for a 10 \nminute contact that the kids (and parents too) will remember for a long long \ntime.\n\n73,\nCharlie Sufana AJ9N\nOne of the ARISS mentors\n\nIn a message dated 6/29/2008 9:35:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, \[email protected] writes:\nDexter,\n\nThis is a very interesting comment from the JSC Public Affairs Office. As a\nNASA employee and the ARISS Chair, I will make sure we get this comment\nclarified. This sounds very strange and out of character from our dealings\nwith the NASA Public Affairs Office. It may be one person's misperceptions,\nwhich needs to be clarified. \n\nYou all probably know this, but the ARISS success rate with schools is well\nover 90%, so reliability is not an issue. That is why we have mentors\nworking with each school.\n\nNow, WRT the IRLP and echolink, I cannot answer that right this moment as I\nwas not on the Operations teleconference last week, so I did not hear what\nhappened. Kenneth Ransom and Charlie Sufana follow this reflector pretty\nclosely and I am sure they will speak up before I get the info and get it in\nan e-mail. But we will provide details on this for you and those on bb\nfairly soon.\n\nI thank you for your sincere interest in the ARISS program. And your\ninterest in inspiring students to pursue careers in science and engineering.\nAnd to pursue the amateur radio hobby.\n\n73, Frank Bauer, KA3HDO\nAMSAT V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs\nARISS International Chairman \n\n\n\n---------------------------------------------\nFrom: Dexter N Muir <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Opportunity...\nTo: [email protected]\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n\nGreetings all\n\nFirst post, so I hope it works.\n\nHere is reply from NASA (and my original)\n\n<Quote>\n\nDear Mr. Muir:\n\nThank you for your note. We are sorry about your disappointment.\n\nSpeaking just of NASA TV, we do not carry Ham radio events because of\nreliability issues.\n\nWe wish we could offer you better news. We appreciate your interest in\nthe space program.\n\nThanks,\nThe JSC PAO Web Team \n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Dexter N Muir [mailto:[email protected]] \nSent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:24 PM\nTo: JSC-HSF-Web-Mail\nSubject: Opportunity lost!\n\nGreetings from 'Down Under' (KiwiSat land)\n\nA golden opportunity lost!\n\nARISS had scheduled a contact with Robinson Elementary School,\nRobinson, \nTexas via telebridge WH6PN in Hawaii on 25 Jun 2008 at 15:45 UTC. At\nthis \ntime ISS _was_ over Hawaii, and ISS was scheduled to be in its Live \nCommentary period.\n\nThere was NO audio from the telebrige WH6PN on either Echolink or the\nIRLP \nDiscovery Reflector, and NASA TV's 'live coverage' segment made\nabsolutely NO \nmention of the event - in fact, no 'on-board' coverage was shown at all!\nISS \nwas out of range of TDRSS earlier, but would surely have been back in\ntouch \nby then? A camera at the ARISS position should have been easy to\narrange, \neven if there is not one already present in that segment.\n\nWhat happened? Was there some other pressing event that could not be\n\nre-scheduled? A technical fault (though nothing was mentioned of such)?\n\nDid 'dirtside' cancel at the last minute? All Internet links showed the\n\nevent would run as advertised right up to time.\n\nEcholink *AMSAT* Conference gives feedback on who is connected, and I\n\nobserved 6 other stations on at that time (incidentally 3:45 AM next\nmorning \nhere in New Zealand). That is 6 parents or grandparents (like me) keen\nto \ndemonstrate live one-on-one communications with an Astronaut IN SPACE,\nwho \nare now extremely disappointed. For myself, it was my first attempt at\nsuch \na conference, and I am _really_ glad I tried solo without getting 3\ngrandkids \nout of bed.\n\nDespite this disappointment, I will try again (solo), and given at\nleast \n_some_ measure of success am likely to bring said children and perhaps\nothers \nto witness the event some time in the future. THESE are your REAL\naudience - \nthe Astronauts, Scientists and Engineers of the future!\n\nSincerely\nDexter N Muir, ZL2DEX (Radio Ham since 1969)\nLevin, New Zealand\n\n</Quote>\n\nIs this really a reliability issue, or somebody so high they don't smell \nvery nice (thinking more govt than anything else) deciding that Amateur = \nHam-fisted, and not realising that the 'Hams' involved are mostly \nprofessionals and, because they LOVE what they do (the original meaning,\nfrom \nLatin), make professional-level efforts to DO IT RIGHT.\n\nBesides, the exercise is NOT 'Carrying Ham radio events', but more an\nissue \nof continuing existing coverage, in similar manner to one of the Astronauts \ndoing a video-tour of the premises (which they do from time to time). As I \nhad pointed out, there is probably a camera already there - the 'Ham Shack' \nis in or near the 'Kitchen' area, which has been 'vid-casted' before.\n\nCan we do better? Can we pressure someone/somewhere to not let this sort\n\nof opportunity pass again?\n\nBTW - what DID happen? Anyone?\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n\n\n\n\n**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for \nfuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)\n", "attachments": [] }