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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ZG7HSL34AYPARLDM42CBPHC3PH4JEPGQ/?format=api",
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    "sender": {
        "address": "gordonjcp (a) gjcp.net",
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    "sender_name": "Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Programming language recommendation?",
    "date": "2008-10-05T10:18:18Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ZV7IHQTGW5CPHCTHKAKZA4AAOX472X4Z/?format=api",
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    "content": "JW wrote:\n> Along the same line: anyone on here doing PIC programming or know of a \n> list for beginners? From CW keyers to Antenna control units and \n> everything in between it looks like it would be fun to program some \n> gadgets for around the shack...\n\nWithout lighting up a PIC/AVR flamewar, I've pretty much entirely moved \nfrom PIC to AVR.  The hardware is generally two to four times faster for \nthe same clock rate (gets more done per cycle) and is easier to program \n- you can make up an AVR programmer for the parallel port that's \nbasically three resistors!\n\nFurthermore, the toolchain is much better for AVR - Microchip are only \ninterested in pushing their frankly dreadful Windows-only MPLAB \nsoftware, while Atmel actively contribute to avr-gcc, a cross-platform \ntoolchain based on the industry standard gcc.  The whole AVR community \nseems a lot better than the PIC one, and I say that as a long-standing \nuser of PIC microcontrollers.\n\nIn short, PIC is great, but the community isn't as strong and the tools \nare rubbish.  On the other hand, Microchip are always more than happy to \n  sample parts and their customer support is *excellent*.\n\nAVR is technically superior in pretty much every way, with an excellent \ncommunity.  Unfortunately Atmel's tech support are a dour bunch who are \noften hard to get good information out of, and not great at sending samples.\n\nI haven't tried the ARM-based AVRs or the MIPS-based PICs yet, though. \nThose might be something to tempt me back to Microchip, if MIPS is as \ngood as I remember it ;-)\n\nGordon\n",
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