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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ZGGS44WDHKV72JH4CYBO6LQ4VAYFKYQR/?format=api",
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        "address": "francesco.messineo (a) gmail.com",
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    "sender_name": "Francesco Messineo",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal",
    "date": "2016-01-02T10:46:29Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XV6KHWIZUAPTOXYHVWMGZ2IRZEPO3U6X/?format=api",
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    "content": "On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n>\n> 5) There is no reason in The Netherlands to not have extra renewable energy\n> sources. I really don't know how your \"fossil fuel industry's opposition\"\n> can keep you from putting solar panels on your roof. I think everyone\n> should!\n>\n\nHere in Italy we have a good amount of sunshine, yet the power\ncompanies (and local laws) do what they can to discourage renewable\nenergy (it's not as convenient as it should be yet).\n\n\n> A - they sensed each other as valid grid voltage, leaving an engineer\n> unable to cut the power on a section of line. There was no way to shut\n> these suckers off in case you need to work at the substation safely\n\ngrids still are too \"old\" in this respect, they expect to have a \"one\nway\" direction for power flow, which is obviously not the case since\nsome years now. To safely work on a piece of grid, it must be \"cut\" in\nmore than one part.\n\n> B - the grid frequency (50Hz here) would run away upwards until there were\n> MOSFets flying everywhere. We literally had a dozen kill themselves when we\n> did that experiment. It was huge fun though, hearing them scream ;)\n\nall line inverters that I know have safe limits for grid frequency,\nand after frequency crosses one of those limits, they just shut down\nthe power.\n\n> Lastly, unfortunately my country is still pathetic in using solar power. we\n> should really be doing more here and world-wide. Yes, we peaked at 100%,\n> for a very short time though ;)\n>\n\none good thing that european laws must do is to force all nations to\nmake all is worth to permit more renewable energy generation. I think\nthis isn't going to happen, at least soon, in my opinion.\n\n73\nFrank IZ8DWF\n",
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