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    "sender_name": "Tom Schuessler",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 67",
    "date": "2015-02-20T14:02:30Z",
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    "content": "\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of [email protected]\nSent: Friday, February 20, 2015 6:00 AM\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 67\n\nSend AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to\n\[email protected]\n\nTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\n\thttp://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\nor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\n\[email protected]\n\nYou can reach the person managing the list at\n\[email protected]\n\nWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than\n\"Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest...\"\n\n\nToday's Topics:\n\n   1. Re: Software ? (Howie DeFelice)\n   2. Re: Software ? (Pedro Converso)\n   3. SSTV Images from ISS This Weekend (Clint Bradford)\n   4. Heads up East Coast: Thursday at 1818 UTC ARISS School\n      Contact on 145.800 (JoAnne Maenpaa)\n   5. AMSAT-NA Fundraising (Clint Bradford)\n   6. AMSAT Journal (Frank Bauer)\n   7. TH-F6A (Lee Ernstrom)\n   8. Re: TH-F6A (Ronald Nutter)\n   9. Re: Software ? (PA3GUO)\n  10. Re: Software ? (PA3GUO)\n  11. Re: SSTV Images from ISS This Weekend (Kenneth Ransom)\n  12. Re: TH-F6A (Joseph Armbruster)\n  13. Kenwood TH-F6a (Clint Bradford)\n  14. Re: Kenwood TH-F6a (John Geiger)\n  15. Re: Kenwood TH-F6a (Clint Bradford)\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nMessage: 1\nDate: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:09:19 -0500\nFrom: Howie DeFelice <[email protected]>\nTo: PA3GUO <[email protected]>, \"[email protected]\"\n\t<[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software ?\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\n\n\n\nHi Henk,\n\nThe \"easy\" answer is to buy an LVB tracker board but I completely understand\nwanting to use the hardware you put so much time and effort into building\nfrom scratch. I have done a little work with Python, which is completely\ncross platform, and think it would be a natural for doing the translation\nyou need.  One possibility would to  have SatPC send the pointing info in\n\"easycom\" format to a virtual serial port that the Python program reads and\ntranslates then sends it out a \"real\" serial port to the rotor interface. As\na non-programmer, that would \"'my\" path of least resistance. \n\n- Howie, AB2S\n \t\t \t   \t\t  \n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 2\nDate: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:59:58 -0300\nFrom: Pedro Converso <[email protected]>\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software ?\nMessage-ID:\n\t<CANTZqKmC1B-HPF9OF9Yaq40Nns__RO4SGdziPPu_Gis=AoOPLg@mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n\nHello Henk,\n\nI program in Visual Basic 2008 Express Edition, although not an expert on\nit.\n\nI have VB installed and run on an old Window-XP, it works and compiles\nflawlesly.\n\nI have made a satellite tracking application that doesn't use DDE, it speaks\ndirectly to com ports either legacy or also on bluetooth com ports.\n\nI am trying to learn android to port this to an app usable on\ncellphones/tablets.\n\nThis aplication can be downloaded and/or executed from\nhttp://amsat.org.ar/Satrack.htm .\n\nFor your needs, perhaps you can use as guidance the CX6DD development\nsources in visual basic 2005 of WISPDDE available at\nhttp://www.mederoscnc.com/CX6DD/wispdde/wispdde.htm .\n\nIf you care to tell me the protocol of your rotor controller, I can add a\nselection to Satrack to support it.\n\nIf I can be of any help please tell me.\n\nBest 73 from Buenos Aires,\nlu7abf, Pedro Converso\[email protected]\[email protected]\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 3\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:41:59 -0800\nFrom: Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nTo: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] SSTV Images from ISS This Weekend\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\nA reminder - this exciting project is expected to begin at 1000 UT on\nSaturday, February 21 until 2130 UT on Monday, February 23.\n\nDetails at the site below ... You CAN download these graphic files with\nequipment as simple as a handheld radio with antenna improvement, and an iOS\napp/device!\n\nhttp://amsat-uk.org/2015/02/11/more-iss-slow-scan-tv/\n\nClint K6LCS\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 4\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:08:31 -0600\nFrom: \"JoAnne Maenpaa\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"'AMSAT-BB'\" <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Heads up East Coast: Thursday at 1818 UTC ARISS\n\tSchool\tContact on 145.800\nMessage-ID: <003501d04c5e$4e26b220$ea741660$@net>\nContent-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=\"us-ascii\"\n\nAn International Space Station school contact has been planned with\nparticipants at Council Rock High School-South, Holland, PA on 19 Feb. The\nevent is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:18 UTC. The duration of the\ncontact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be\ndirect between NA1SS and K3DN. The contact should be audible over the\neastern U.S and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in\non the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in\nEnglish.\n\n\n--\n73 de JoAnne K9JKM\[email protected]\nAMSAT VP User Services\n\n\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 5\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:37:54 -0800\nFrom: Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nTo: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Fundraising\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\nI still have two plate blocks of Apollo-Soyuz commemorative stamps from last\nyear's fundraising effort.\n\nPhotos of them are here:\n\nhttp://www.work-sat.com/Work-Sat/FUNDRAISING.html\n\nThe next two folks who contribute $20 OR MORE to AMSAT-NA, and have AMSAT-NA\nnotify me via email with their names and mailing address, will receive this\ngift!\n\nOffer expires midnight PST on Monday, February 23.\n\nClint K6LCS\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 6\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:57:28 -0500\nFrom: \"Frank Bauer\" <[email protected]>\nTo: <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Journal\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=\"US-ASCII\"\n\nAll,\n\n \n\nI received my AMSAT Journal today.  \n\n \n\nThose who are not AMSAT members, you are missing out on a treasure trove of\ninformation and outstanding pictures.  This month's Journal alone is worth a\nyear's membership.  And I know she has more outstanding journals coming.\n\n \n\nThanks to JoAnne and the team on a phenomenal journal!!\n\n \n\n73,  Frank Bauer, KA3HDO\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 7\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:11:36 -0700\nFrom: Lee Ernstrom <[email protected]>\nTo: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] TH-F6A\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=us-ascii\n\nGA satellite goo-roos.  Today I was scanning the HRO catalogue looking for\nan inexpensive solution to full duplex contacts for the linear birds and I\nran across the Kenwood TH-F6A hand held 144, 222, and 450 MHZ FM with SSB\noption on receive only.  That sounds to me like a great fairly inexpensive\nsolution.  \n\nHas anyone tried one of these yet for satellite work?  \n\nAnd I'm wondering if there would be a de-sense problem if used on receive\nwith a 20 watt transmitter on a different band close to it?\n\nWA7HQD\nLee (Doc) Ernstrom\nSyracuse, Ut DN-31xb\n\n\n\n\nSent from my iPad\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 8\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:27:27 -0600\nFrom: Ronald Nutter <[email protected]>\nTo: Lee Ernstrom <[email protected]>\nCc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] TH-F6A\nMessage-ID:\n\t<CAEptLKrgALs0iFqZSDUO10OGxmVdXJhSa8GQB+exkxhfxEy7mQ@mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n\nI have used this one for many years.  As long as there is some antenna\nseparation, I wouldnt expect much if any desense.\n\nRon\n\nOn Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Lee Ernstrom <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> GA satellite goo-roos.  Today I was scanning the HRO catalogue looking for\n> an inexpensive solution to full duplex contacts for the linear birds and I\n> ran across the Kenwood TH-F6A hand held 144, 222, and 450 MHZ FM with SSB\n> option on receive only.  That sounds to me like a great fairly inexpensive\n> solution.\n>\n> Has anyone tried one of these yet for satellite work?\n>\n> And I'm wondering if there would be a de-sense problem if used on receive\n> with a 20 watt transmitter on a different band close to it?\n>\n> WA7HQD\n> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom\n> Syracuse, Ut DN-31xb\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> Sent from my iPad\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 9\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:28:57 +0100\nFrom: \"PA3GUO\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"'Dan Cross'\" <[email protected]>\nCc: [email protected], PA3GUO <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software ?\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=\"utf-8\"\n\nHi Dan,\n\n \n\nThanks, I didn?t know about freepascal yet ? good to learn each day !\n\n \n\nHenk\n\n \n\nVan: Dan Cross [mailto:[email protected]] \nVerzonden: donderdag 19 februari 2015 03:39\nAan: PA3GUO\nCC: [email protected]\nOnderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Software ?\n\n \n\nStep 1: Install Linux.  Just kidding!  (Kinda.)  I'm only (half) joking.\n\n \n\nBut seriously...I do think there's a solution to your problem: you said\nthere was example code using Delphi? I agree that that's more or less on the\nwane (to put it mildly), but there does exist a free Pascal compiler that\nimplements most of the functionality, without tying you to a specific\nvendor.  Check out http://www.freepascal.org; it may just do what you need\nit to do.\n\n \n\n \n\nOn Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM, PA3GUO <[email protected]> wrote:\n\nLast December I got myself a new PC, with the ambition to upgrade all old HW\n& SW to the latest standards. Currently the OS is Windows 8.1, and I am\nplanning to switch (for free) to Windows 10 by the end of this year.\n\nAlmost all software is migrated from the old PCs to the new computer - it\nall went smooth (and runs faster now). Almost all: I still have on an old\nWindows2000 PC the software running that controls my antennas. This software\nis all Pascal, and under Windows2000 you could still directly write to\nserial ports. That changed as of Windows XP.\n\nIn the new setup SATPC32 is the central software for satellite tracking\n(position & doppler). Kenwood TS2000 as well as eg SDR# are connected just\nfine.\nSo? the only thing to be done is hooking up SATPC32 to my rotor controller\n(http://pa3guo.com/zb_rtr_ctrl.html).\n\nOf course my rotor controller doesnt talk any of the standard interface\nprotocols, so I cannot use the default set of outputs of SATPC32. Basically\nI just need to read from the SATPC32 DDE the string that includes the\nazimuth & etc, do a minor edit to it and send it to a USB COM port.\nFortunately SATPC32 comes with example code for this (Delfi and VB).\nUnfortunately, Delfi (replaces Pascal) is an outdated standard, and so I\nopted for the VB example.\n\nNow, the Visual Basic IDE doesn't really exist anymore. Microsoft has now\nVisual Studio Express, which is impressive btw. Issue though is, the\nincluded SATPC32 VB examples use DDE constructs that were supported in the\nVB IDE , but are not in Visual Studio anymore. So what I *could* do is hack\nthe VB example to make it work in Visual Studio, but it seems not that\nstraightforward. To add to this: SDR# is C# and talks to SATPC32's DDE. So\nC# must be DDE capable, but I haven?t seen simple example code for that\neither.\n\nIn short: I just need to read from the DDE , do a minor processing on the\nstring (kind of convert degrees into integer + offset) and send the result\nto a com port.\n\nHow would you do this ?\nDo you program in C# or Visual Basic ?\nIn case of Visual Basic, do you use Visual Studio Express ?\n\nThanks,\nHenk - PA3GUO\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\nto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\nexpressed\nare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\nAMSAT-NA.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n \n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 10\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:35:24 +0100\nFrom: \"PA3GUO\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"'Howie DeFelice'\" <[email protected]>,\t<[email protected]>\nCc: PA3GUO <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software ?\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain;\tcharset=\"us-ascii\"\n\nHi Howie,\n\n \n\nThat may indeed be the simplest (and therefore best) solution (redirecting &\nmodifying the the easycom format).\n\nAnd yes, either Visual Basic or C# or Python could do that. Like you I have\npositive experiences with Python (using scripts for RAX, MCUBED and now\nGRIFEX from MXL).\n\nCertainly a very useful suggestion!\n\n \n\nThanks!\n\nHenk\n\n \n\nVan: Howie DeFelice [mailto:[email protected]] \nVerzonden: woensdag 18 februari 2015 23:09\nAan: PA3GUO; [email protected]\nOnderwerp: RE: [amsat-bb] Software ?\n\n \n\n\n\n\n\nHi Henk,\n\nThe \"easy\" answer is to buy an LVB tracker board but I completely understand\nwanting to use the hardware you put so much time and effort into building\nfrom scratch. I have done a little work with Python, which is completely\ncross platform, and think it would be a natural for doing the translation\nyou need.  One possibility would to  have SatPC send the pointing info in\n\"easycom\" format to a virtual serial port that the Python program reads and\ntranslates then sends it out a \"real\" serial port to the rotor interface. As\na non-programmer, that would \"'my\" path of least resistance. \n\n- Howie, AB2S\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 11\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:19:59 -0600\nFrom: Kenneth Ransom <[email protected]>\nTo: Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nCc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] SSTV Images from ISS This Weekend\nMessage-ID:\n\t<CAB5cSv=j3gC+QDeh65HKvcm652QYWL1Qi0hekdMttSo6TOaP7g@mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n\nLooks like the SSTV activity will have to wait a bit. The planned EVA has\nbeen delayed one day and the amateur radios are required to be powered down\nduring EVA activity. More info on the EVA at\nhttps://blogs.nasa.gov/spacestation/2015/02/19/first-of-three-spacewalks-now\n-set-for-saturday/\n\n\nOn Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> A reminder - this exciting project is expected to begin at 1000 UT on\n> Saturday,\n> February 21 until 2130 UT on Monday, February 23.\n>\n> Details at the site below ... You CAN download these graphic files with\n> equipment\n> as simple as a handheld radio with antenna improvement, and an iOS\n> app/device!\n>\n> http://amsat-uk.org/2015/02/11/more-iss-slow-scan-tv/\n>\n> Clint K6LCS\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n\n-- \nKenneth - N5VHO\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 12\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:15:43 -0500\nFrom: Joseph Armbruster <[email protected]>\nTo: Lee Ernstrom <[email protected]>\nCc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] TH-F6A\nMessage-ID:\n\t<CADkz4c9c0UH_=DxEfxAGfhpTGutbV+4pg1-RQt6AkM9qWDOe1Q@mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n\nLee,\n\nI have one and use it almost daily.  It is a great little handheld,\nhowever it is not full duplex, meaning you can not simultaneously\ntransmit and receive.  When you key up and transmit, the receiver cuts\nout.  To simultaneously transmit and receive you will need an\nadditional rig.\n\nJoe\n\nOn Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Lee Ernstrom <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n> GA satellite goo-roos.  Today I was scanning the HRO catalogue looking for\nan inexpensive solution to full duplex contacts for the linear birds and I\nran across the Kenwood TH-F6A hand held 144, 222, and 450 MHZ FM with SSB\noption on receive only.  That sounds to me like a great fairly inexpensive\nsolution.\n>\n> Has anyone tried one of these yet for satellite work?\n>\n> And I'm wondering if there would be a de-sense problem if used on receive\nwith a 20 watt transmitter on a different band close to it?\n>\n> WA7HQD\n> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom\n> Syracuse, Ut DN-31xb\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> Sent from my iPad\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\nexpressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\nAMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 13\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:09:37 -0800\nFrom: Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nTo: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-F6a\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\nThe TH-F6a is *not* a true full-duplex radio. You can not hear anything on\nthe other band when \nyou key the mic ...\n\nThe only currently available HT that does U/V and V/U sat modes well is the\nKenwood TH-D72a, \nat about $450.\n\nSO ... Many are simply purchasing two \"traditional\" HTs to accomplish true,\nfull-duplex satellite work.\n\nI like the Yaesu FT-60R. Two of them plus an Arrow 146/437-10WBP antenna\ncost the same \namount as that Kenwood 'D72a!\n\nClint K6LCS\nhttp://www.work-sat.com\n\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 14\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:38:32 -0600\nFrom: John Geiger <[email protected]>\nTo: Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nCc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-F6a\nMessage-ID:\n\t<CAHZ3kP8yhYENyyxnv+_0Ai+U5fqi0tpvhTMx5pWrtwY40r7N-g@mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n\nI got the impression from the original posting that he wanted to use the\nF6A on receive only, and would be using a different radio for the transmit\nside.\n\n73 John AF5CC\n\nOn Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> The TH-F6a is *not* a true full-duplex radio. You can not hear anything on\n> the other band when\n> you key the mic ...\n>\n> The only currently available HT that does U/V and V/U sat modes well is\n> the Kenwood TH-D72a,\n> at about $450.\n>\n> SO ... Many are simply purchasing two \"traditional\" HTs to accomplish\n> true, full-duplex satellite work.\n>\n> I like the Yaesu FT-60R. Two of them plus an Arrow 146/437-10WBP antenna\n> cost the same\n> amount as that Kenwood 'D72a!\n>\n> Clint K6LCS\n> http://www.work-sat.com\n>\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 15\nDate: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:39:49 -0800\nFrom: Clint Bradford <[email protected]>\nTo: John Geiger <[email protected]>\nCc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TH-F6a\nMessage-ID: <[email protected]>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\nOoops - if so, I mis-read the original post ...\n\nClint\n\n\nOn Feb 19, 2015, at 9:38 PM, John Geiger wrote:\n\nI got the impression from the original posting that he wanted to use the F6A\non receive only ...\n\n------------------------------\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected].\nAMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide\nwithout requiring membership.  Opinions expressed\nare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\nAMSAT-NA.\nNot an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nhttp://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\nEnd of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 67\n****************************************\n\n",
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