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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/5WCMYKHCC24BM4MVX6XJVFTWMENPD3IE/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "F0D6AD19FBE27346BC5FBD7D34D1A07F676C33B5FC@NDMSSCC02.ndc.nasa.gov", "message_id_hash": "5WCMYKHCC24BM4MVX6XJVFTWMENPD3IE", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/QIC5XSSZAJOGYZEOKIY2KI6VVJZWYCXF/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "Patrick.L.Kilroy (a) nasa.gov", "mailman_id": "c9b52fa97df54f41a91536e2a434c685", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/c9b52fa97df54f41a91536e2a434c685/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)", "subject": "[amsat-dc] Re: AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)", "date": "2013-01-07T18:13:14Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/W3KOTEHNKDRZW2I2RNJ4ZWFCSC2SBZRO/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/Z2LHD7RCBKGFNO2IPRDFLIROSQIHSZZW/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hi Bruce,\n\nThank you for your great comments and ideas! \n\nFirst, yes, please check with MARC to see what \nconditions they would like to set for sponsorship. \nA $20 across the board fee for AMSAT members \nsounds okay. With a followup to the discounts \nif possible. (Would be nice if we don't have to \ndeal out money during the event.) \n\nPlease check to see if the wildapricot system \ncan \"refund\" half of the fee after the event for \nwhere it is confirmed that a person indeed (1) \nbrought a \"substantial\" demo station or (2) \ngave a \"substantial\" presentation knowing that \nindividuals will be offering extemporaneous \nshort talks/guidance throughout the event, or \n(3) that the attendee is an AMSAT-NA Life \nMember. \n\nI really like the idea of offering Life members \nthe discount, even though *I* do not qualify \ntoday. \n\nSo, maybe (gulp!) it should be $30 for non-members, \nhoping that those individuals will call Martha \nto become a member and effectively get \"$10 off\" \nin a way?? \n\nTo recap: $30 non-members; $20 AMSAT-NA members \nand sponsor/MARC members (claim one, unfortunately \nnot both); $10 AMSAT-NA Life Members, right off \nthe top. And we consider to apply any discounts \n*after* to those who wish to claim a discount. \n\nThoughts? \n\n(I expect to pay full AMSAT $20 price -- to test \nthe system? -- and probably won't bother to claim \na discount.) \n\n\"Leftover\" money can be used to buy more goodies/\nfood/misc/other for the event itself and then \nand only then any further \"left-over\" be donated \nto AMSAT-NA. Drinks all day and a catered \nlunch is sounding better all the time. \n\nI will drop the idea of a raffle or a silent \nauction SOON unless we find someone to delegate \nthe task after the more important roles are \nfilled. Since I just might consider doing this \nSAME workshop annually then some things like \nthis might wait a year before implementation. \n\nYes, there is a dual-use factor between the \nhigh-altitude balloon portable ground station \nand the amateur satellite portable ground station. \nIn fact, one of my RF sources is to be one of \nthe PICetSat modules beeping on 433.920 MHz AM/\nFM/USB. \n\nI am working on getting a LARGE room with 6-ft \ntables and chairs available with lots of elbow \nroom. Not the same building as before, it is \nunder renovation. \n\nA live demo is good but depending on which \nbuilding we are in, and the complexity of who's \nstation employed, will dictate. \n\nI'd hate to hold a concurrent flea market and \nhave to answer to that with my employer, but \nthere HAS to be a low-impact means to barter \ngear. \n\nSDR yes! Maybe Tom Clark will show his little \ntoys and provide color commentary??? \n\nThings are starting to gell. Let's keep the \nidea exchanges alive. More comments? \n\nCheers,\n\nPat\n\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Bruce Semple [mailto:[email protected]] \nSent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:09 PM\nTo: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680); [email protected]\nSubject: RE: [amsat-dc] AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)\n\nPat, Dan, Steve .. and all \n\nPat - thanks for getting the ball rolling on this -- \n\n\n1. Great!\n\n2. Our Club (Montgomery Amateur Radio Club - MARC) has recently purchased a\nsubscription to a Membership Registration Service - to manage the club\nmembership -- One of the functions it offers is event registration\n(http://www.wildapricot.com/event-registration) I have initiated an\ninquiry with our board to see if MARC is willing to be a \"sponsor\" of the\nAMSAT-DC workshop -- and allow us to use the event registration feature of\nthis SaaS (Software as a Service) offering. Notice it would handle the fee\ncollection, and if needed, a structured fee plan.\n\n3. I am in favor of a basic fee -- $20 seems reasonable. Yes, I could see\nwaiving some or all of it for presenters / demonstrators. \nI agree to stay \"on site\" for lunch would be more efficient.\n\n Option D: -- let's see how many \"helpers\" we get to see if we a silent\nauction is an option. I am assuming we would have to have some contingency\nplan if some items don't get \"bought\" at their minimum price. \n\n4. people are probably going to block the whole day -- so we could probably\nrun until 4:30 -- Maybe have all the \"formal\" activities wrap up by 3:30 -\nDo we need to allow for some cleanup time -- to get the donated space \"back\nin order\" \n\n-- it would definitely be good to get rolling by 10:00am -- are we thinking\nlunch @ 12:30 - 1:00 -- maybe we should start a little earlier?\n\n-- I think it would be nice to have a couple of 20-30 minute talks or\ntalk/demonstration planned. -- \nWould we be meeting in the same room as last time -- could it be partitioned\noff -- so that if someone did not want to attend a \"talk\" they could keep\nbrowsing? -- \n\n\n5. Do we have the option of opening it up for \"satellite related\" equipment\nswap\" if hams want to bring in some equipment they want to sell?\n\n6. Other Ideas --\n -- Obviously SDR's is one of the hot tech topics -- I went ahead and\ngot one of the $20 SDR dongles (January QST) and got the SDR# software up\n& running -- \n -- I'm still not completely sure what the I & Q signals are -- how are\nthey created -- \nIt would be great to have a SDR SME there to answer questions.\n\nRegarding \"working the birds\" -- I think one of the biggest challenges -\nEspecially with the linear birds is managing the Doppler shift ...\n -- how are you doing it on your portable station? \nIt would be interesting to have some sort Doppler shift simulator and let\nparticipants get a sense of the tuning required. \n\n7. Are you thinking about working a pass during the workshop? \n FO-29 goes overhead between 11:30am - 12:30 \n We should also be able to get in an SO-50 (FM bird) pass \n\n8.Possible Talk Topics\n - \"getting ready to work the next AMSAT-NA cubsat\n - SDR's how they work \n - AMSAT-NA - Current Operational Status of existing sats \n -- Near future plans - (can we get Drew to stop by?) \n - Pat - do you have any of your balloon hardware you want to show off --\nor talk about recent flights?\n\n\n73,\nBruce\nWA3SWJ\n\n\n\n", "attachments": [] }