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    "sender_name": "Bruce Semple",
    "subject": "[amsat-dc] Re: AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)",
    "date": "2013-01-07T17:09:04Z",
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    "content": "Pat, Dan, Steve .. and all \n\nPat - thanks for getting the ball rolling on this -- \n\n\n1. Great!\n\n2. Our Club (Montgomery Amateur Radio Club - MARC) has recently purchased a\nsubscription to a Membership Registration Service - to manage the club\nmembership -- One of the functions it offers is  event registration\n(http://www.wildapricot.com/event-registration)   I have initiated an\ninquiry with our board to see if MARC is willing to be a \"sponsor\" of the\nAMSAT-DC workshop -- and allow us to use the event registration feature of\nthis SaaS (Software as a Service) offering.  Notice it would handle the fee\ncollection, and if needed, a structured fee plan.\n\n3. I am in favor of a basic fee -- $20 seems reasonable.  Yes, I could see\nwaiving some or all of it for presenters / demonstrators. \nI agree to stay \"on site\" for lunch would be more efficient.\n\n  Option D:   -- let's see how many \"helpers\" we get to see if we a silent\nauction is an option.   I am assuming we would have to have some contingency\nplan if some items don't get \"bought\" at their minimum price.   \n\n4. people are probably going to block the whole day -- so we could probably\nrun until 4:30 --   Maybe have all the \"formal\" activities wrap up by 3:30 -\nDo we need to allow for some cleanup time -- to get the donated space \"back\nin order\" \n\n-- it would definitely be good to get rolling by 10:00am --  are we thinking\nlunch @ 12:30 - 1:00 -- maybe we should start a little earlier?\n\n-- I think it would be nice to have a couple of 20-30 minute talks or\ntalk/demonstration planned. -- \nWould we be meeting in the same room as last time -- could it be partitioned\noff -- so that if someone did not want to attend a \"talk\" they could keep\nbrowsing?  -- \n\n\n5. Do we have the option of opening it up for \"satellite related\" equipment\nswap\"  if hams want to bring in some equipment they want to sell?\n\n6. Other Ideas --\n   -- Obviously SDR's is one of the hot tech topics --   I went ahead and\ngot one of the $20  SDR dongles (January QST)  and got the SDR# software up\n& running -- \n  -- I'm still not completely sure what the I & Q signals are -- how are\nthey created -- \nIt would be great to have a SDR SME there to answer questions.\n\nRegarding \"working the birds\" -- I think one of the biggest challenges  -\nEspecially with the linear birds is managing the Doppler shift ...\n  -- how are you doing it on your portable station? \nIt would be interesting to have some sort Doppler shift simulator  and let\nparticipants get a sense of the tuning required.  \n\n7.   Are you thinking about working a pass during the workshop?  \n   FO-29 goes overhead between  11:30am - 12:30 \n  We should also be able to get in an SO-50 (FM bird) pass \n\n8.Possible Talk Topics\n    -  \"getting ready to work the next AMSAT-NA cubsat\n    - SDR's how they work \n    - AMSAT-NA - Current Operational Status of existing sats \n      -- Near future plans - (can we get Drew to stop by?) \n    - Pat - do you have any of your balloon hardware you want to show off --\nor talk about recent flights?\n\n\n73,\nBruce\nWA3SWJ\n\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)\nSent: Friday, January 04, 2013 12:02 PM\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: [amsat-dc] AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)\n\nDear Bruce WA3SWJ, Dan N8FGV, Steve KS1G and all,\n\nMay I run a few things by you for your advice \nand comments regarding our coming spring work-\nshop?  \n\n1. I got a blurb into the next AMSAT Journal \nthat members will see in their snail mail boxes \nsoon.  Page 13, nice!  We are official.  ;-)  \n(See the basic info about this crazy idea below \nfrom an earlier post on our amsat-dc list if \nyou need a reminder of the vision of this \nworkshop.)  JoAnne was great in helping to \nmake this so.  \n\nYayyyy!  The day will be lots of fun!  \n\n2. Since the workshop will be on site at Goddard, \nI will need to get every single person's name, \nnationality and current town of residence into \nthe NASA Goddard security folks so they can \nmake a one-day non-escorted badge for each \nparticipant.  Unfortunately, we need to emphasize \nto people to register even if they are not sure \nthey can make it, because registration will close \nabout a week before the event.  This is NOT like \nyour weekend hamfest!  Problems?  \n\nAny who wish to attend who are NOT a USA citizen \nmay do so ONLY AS LONG AS they contact me before \nFebruary 15, because there are special procedures \nin place to make this so.  And they must follow \nthem within other deadlines.  Unfortunately, NO \nexceptions to this procedure.  \n\nBonus: there will be NO FEE to use the facilities.  \nYOUR tax dollars at work!  \n\nBut BTW, in the news today, the fiscal cliff has \nbeen pushed off until March 1.  Our use of the \nfacilities ARE CONTINGENT on these circumstances, \nand others.  Can we accept these caveats?  \n\n3. Price Stucture.  Trade study/options.  In rough \norder of logic or importance, kinda.  . . . \n\nOPTION A.  No charge to anyone.  No coffee in the \nmorning.  No lunch on site.  No frills.  The lunch \nbreak would be at noon, normally for an hour.  But \nto get everyone back, on time, will be a disruptive \npain.  (Been there.)  I'd like to end the event by, \nsay, 3:30 PM or what ever you think.  (Based on a \n9:00 AM start time?)  I beleive an off site lunch \nbreak will put a damper on our progress.  \n\nOPTION B.  A modest donation requested.  $20?  \nThat will get us coffee/tea/juice in the morning \nand Subway sandwiches (catered) with sodas at \nnoonish, enjoyed in place (but not near one's \nsatellite hardware, of course).  The event goes \nthrough lunch unbroken.  We will need a point of \ncontact, actually two.  One to collect the money \nand one to take care of the food, condiments, \nutinsils, cups, napkins, set up tables, etc.  \nCan you volunteer yourself?  Or better yet, have \nyour wife/GF/significant other volunteer to work \nthe food issues?  That would be awesome!  \n\nOPTION C.  If we request a donation for admission, \nthen \"what if\" it is structured?  That is, shall \nwe consider a main donation of, say, $25 for \n\"normal\" admission, and a lesser fee for either \nstudents or for those who bring at least three \n(\"significant\") hardware items to set up, show \nand discuss with others?  The lifeblood of this \nevent will be having at least ten stations set \nup for show and tell.  Perhaps an offset of the \nrequested donation amount will encourage people \nto bring stuff.  Thoughts??  \n\nOPTION D.  Shall we hold one or more raffles or \nsilent auctions?  That is, shall we invest in \na FUNcube Dongle Pro+, an ARROW antenna or an \nElk antenna and then make available raffle \ntickets?  Or a written auction with a minimum \ndonation request?  If so, we will need a \nvolunteer to run with this.  (I can offer some \nseed money and accept some risk, but I need to \ndelegate this to a trustworthy individual.)  \nVolunteer?  Thoughts?  \n\nAny leftover dollars can be either donated \ndirectly back to AMSAT-NA or invested in \nneeds for a workshop next year.  \n\n4. It looks like we are set with the date \nof Saturday, March 23, with no rain date.  \nWe can still set the time.  Open doors at \n9:00 AM for those who need to set up?  With \nthe \"program\" to begin at 10:00 AM?  Or \nlater?  Shall we advertise that the program \nends at 3:30 PM?  Or earlier?  Or later?  \n\n5. Shall we solicit formal talks or presen-\ntations too?  (I was not planning this \ninitially.)  Limit the talk time to ten \nminutes?  Sixty minutes?  Then we ought to \ndelegate an individual to coordinate the \npresenters in advance?  Volunteer?  \n\nOtherwise, No formal talks, but allow \nindividuals to address the group as issues \ncome up at the tables?  No volunteer needed \nto coordinate this.  I can probably do it \non the fly during the event.  \n\n6. I will set up a table with my humble but \ngrowing portable satellite station on the \nevening before the event.  Would anyone \nlike to join me, either to move MY gear, or \nmove in YOUR own gear?  That way, I/we will \nbe free in the morning to help or direct \nothers as needed.  \n\n7. We want this to be a successful workshop.  \nWhat other important framework item needs \nto be discussed?  \n\nThoughts?  \n\nThank you for your support!  \n\nCheers,\n\nPat\nN8PK\n\n\nMr. Patrick L. Kilroy\nIntegration & Test Manager\nNASA Goddard Space Flight Center\nBuilding 5, Mail Code 568\nGreenbelt, Maryland 20771\nPhone: +1-301-286-1984\nE-mail: [email protected]\nWeb: http://simsat.net/ (outreach)\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nDate: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:32:03 -0500\nFrom: Stephan Greene <[email protected]>\nCc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\nSubject: [amsat-dc] Re: AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 Proposed\n\nExcellent idea!  I'm unsure if I can make the entire day or at all but I am\nvery interested.\n\nBesides the Arrow & the semi-portable setup (vehicle required!) I used for\nField Day, I have 50% of a homebrew antenna setup - 6 element WA5VJB cheap\nyagi for 2M (I'll add it works FB for meteor scatter, too!).  Need to make\na 70cm version and possibly a smaller/more portable 2M.   And get back on\nthe birds after tearing the station apart for FD and not putting it all\nback together!\n\n73 Steve KS1G\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nOn Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:\n\n> I WISH TO PROPOSE the AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop\n> 2013, to take place on Saturday, March 23, at\n> the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in\n> Greenbelt, Md.  It will be a nearly all-day\n> event.\n>\n> \"Workshop on Portable Satellite Ground Stations\"\n>\n> ... is the title, where attendees will learn\n> about and develop their own portable ground\n> station and show off their wares which will\n> feature one or more of the following:\n>\n> 1. One's own laptop computer, with appropriate\n> software installed, such as for satellite tracking,\n> SDR receiver control, antenna control (optional),\n> audio recording and any other apps, for example.\n>\n> 2. The FUNcube Dongle Pro receiver or equivalent,\n> emphasizing *receiving* and not including the\n> transmit side at this particular time.  See the\n> links below for ideas about software, receivers\n> and antennas.\n>\n> 3. Antennas for 146 MHz and 436 MHz with a\n> mounting means, such as on a camera tripod, small\n> mast, homebrew PVC, or other portable creation.\n> Your antennas can be either the Arrow, Elk or\n> equivalent, or homebrew.  Polarization linear or\n> circular.  Antenna Az-El movement can be by hand\n> or controller (manual activating or automated,\n> fully or partially).\n>\n> Everything, or almost everything, ought to be\n> designed to run from a 12-volt source of your\n> choosing.\n>\n> Additional details will be determined by a small\n> humble steering committee that YOU can influence\n> early on.  And speaking of that, . . .\n>\n> May I include you, among others, on my steering\n> committee?  If not, that's okay, but I need to\n> know if you'd like to participate.  Can you\n> bring in some gear to assemble and to show off\n> to others attending?\n>\n> Perhaps we could meet in person, telecon by\n> phone, or by EchoLink conferencing soon as a\n> group to further outline this event?\n>\n> Foremost, if needed, an alternate date can be\n> selected, from either March 9 or 16, or moved\n> into April on a Saturday AFTER the Greater\n> Baltimore Hamboree and Computerfest of April 6,\n> as long as we decide in the next week or two.\n>\n> Are you in??\n>\n> Can you help organize?  Or attend?  What might\n> you bring?\n>\n> Thoughts?\n>\n> Thanks,\n>\n> Pat Kilroy\n> N8PK\n> amsat area coordinator\n>\n> Links for antenna ideas:\n> http://arrowantennas.com/\n> http://www.elkantennas.com/\n> http://www.g6lvb.com/homebrewarrow.htm\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/crow/index.php\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/Az_El_Pos.pdf\n> http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/downloads/iROTOR.pdf\n> http://www.arrl.org/shop/The-ARRL-Satellite-Handbook/\n> http://ac6v.com/antprojects.htm\n>\n> Links for software ideas:\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/software.php\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/\n> http://www.moetronix.com/spectravue.htm\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/resguide.pdf\n> http://sdrsharp.com/\n>\n> Links for receiver ideas:\n> http://www.funcubedongle.com/\n> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html\n> http://www.funcubedongle.com/MyImages/SpectravueConfigurationForFCD.pdf\n> http://sdrsharp.com/\n>\n>\n>   \"People don't care about how much\n>     we know, until they know how\n>    much we care.\"  - Jack Vieira\n>\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nVia the AMSAT-DC mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA\[email protected]\nhttp://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-dc\n\n",
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