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    "sender_name": "Samudra Haque",
    "subject": "[amsat-dc] Re: AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)",
    "date": "2013-01-07T18:23:22Z",
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    "content": "Pat, just a question, in a common room, what is the noise level there? will\nwe need any sort of intercom/talkback system to coordinate\ntrainer/group/exercise?\n\nOr, also, how about a remote screen sharing program for accessing a\nprojector - to allow instructors to show teams on what to do? (unless there\nwill be a projector)\n\nLast question, will we be able to use our laptops to get internet access\nthere using the GSFC  guest wi-fi network?\n\n-samudra\n\n\n\nOn Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <\[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Hi Bruce,\n>\n> Thank you for your great comments and ideas!\n>\n> First, yes, please check with MARC to see what\n> conditions they would like to set for sponsorship.\n> A $20 across the board fee for AMSAT members\n> sounds okay.  With a followup to the discounts\n> if possible.  (Would be nice if we don't have to\n> deal out money during the event.)\n>\n> Please check to see if the wildapricot system\n> can \"refund\" half of the fee after the event for\n> where it is confirmed that a person indeed (1)\n> brought a \"substantial\" demo station or (2)\n> gave a \"substantial\" presentation knowing that\n> individuals will be offering extemporaneous\n> short talks/guidance throughout the event, or\n> (3) that the attendee is an AMSAT-NA Life\n> Member.\n>\n> I really like the idea of offering Life members\n> the discount, even though *I* do not qualify\n> today.\n>\n> So, maybe (gulp!) it should be $30 for non-members,\n> hoping that those individuals will call Martha\n> to become a member and effectively get \"$10 off\"\n> in a way??\n>\n> To recap: $30 non-members; $20 AMSAT-NA members\n> and sponsor/MARC members (claim one, unfortunately\n> not both); $10 AMSAT-NA Life Members, right off\n> the top.  And we consider to apply any discounts\n> *after* to those who wish to claim a discount.\n>\n> Thoughts?\n>\n> (I expect to pay full AMSAT $20 price -- to test\n> the system? -- and probably won't bother to claim\n> a discount.)\n>\n> \"Leftover\" money can be used to buy more goodies/\n> food/misc/other for the event itself and then\n> and only then any further \"left-over\" be donated\n> to AMSAT-NA.  Drinks all day and a catered\n> lunch is sounding better all the time.\n>\n> I will drop the idea of a raffle or a silent\n> auction SOON unless we find someone to delegate\n> the task after the more important roles are\n> filled.  Since I just might consider doing this\n> SAME workshop annually then some things like\n> this might wait a year before implementation.\n>\n> Yes, there is a dual-use factor between the\n> high-altitude balloon portable ground station\n> and the amateur satellite portable ground station.\n> In fact, one of my RF sources is to be one of\n> the PICetSat modules beeping on 433.920 MHz AM/\n> FM/USB.\n>\n> I am working on getting a LARGE room with 6-ft\n> tables and chairs available with lots of elbow\n> room.  Not the same building as before, it is\n> under renovation.\n>\n> A live demo is good but depending on which\n> building we are in, and the complexity of who's\n> station employed, will dictate.\n>\n> I'd hate to hold a concurrent flea market and\n> have to answer to that with my employer, but\n> there HAS to be a low-impact means to barter\n> gear.\n>\n> SDR yes!  Maybe Tom Clark will show his little\n> toys and provide color commentary???\n>\n> Things are starting to gell.  Let's keep the\n> idea exchanges alive.  More comments?\n>\n> Cheers,\n>\n> Pat\n>\n>\n>\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: Bruce Semple [mailto:[email protected]]\n> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:09 PM\n> To: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680); [email protected]\n> Subject: RE: [amsat-dc] AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)\n>\n> Pat, Dan, Steve .. and all\n>\n> Pat - thanks for getting the ball rolling on this --\n>\n>\n> 1. Great!\n>\n> 2. Our Club (Montgomery Amateur Radio Club - MARC) has recently purchased a\n> subscription to a Membership Registration Service - to manage the club\n> membership -- One of the functions it offers is  event registration\n> (http://www.wildapricot.com/event-registration)   I have initiated an\n> inquiry with our board to see if MARC is willing to be a \"sponsor\" of the\n> AMSAT-DC workshop -- and allow us to use the event registration feature of\n> this SaaS (Software as a Service) offering.  Notice it would handle the fee\n> collection, and if needed, a structured fee plan.\n>\n> 3. I am in favor of a basic fee -- $20 seems reasonable.  Yes, I could see\n> waiving some or all of it for presenters / demonstrators.\n> I agree to stay \"on site\" for lunch would be more efficient.\n>\n>   Option D:   -- let's see how many \"helpers\" we get to see if we a silent\n> auction is an option.   I am assuming we would have to have some\n> contingency\n> plan if some items don't get \"bought\" at their minimum price.\n>\n> 4. people are probably going to block the whole day -- so we could probably\n> run until 4:30 --   Maybe have all the \"formal\" activities wrap up by 3:30\n> -\n> Do we need to allow for some cleanup time -- to get the donated space \"back\n> in order\"\n>\n> -- it would definitely be good to get rolling by 10:00am --  are we\n> thinking\n> lunch @ 12:30 - 1:00 -- maybe we should start a little earlier?\n>\n> -- I think it would be nice to have a couple of 20-30 minute talks or\n> talk/demonstration planned. --\n> Would we be meeting in the same room as last time -- could it be\n> partitioned\n> off -- so that if someone did not want to attend a \"talk\" they could keep\n> browsing?  --\n>\n>\n> 5. Do we have the option of opening it up for \"satellite related\" equipment\n> swap\"  if hams want to bring in some equipment they want to sell?\n>\n> 6. Other Ideas --\n>    -- Obviously SDR's is one of the hot tech topics --   I went ahead and\n> got one of the $20  SDR dongles (January QST)  and got the SDR# software up\n> & running --\n>   -- I'm still not completely sure what the I & Q signals are -- how are\n> they created --\n> It would be great to have a SDR SME there to answer questions.\n>\n> Regarding \"working the birds\" -- I think one of the biggest challenges  -\n> Especially with the linear birds is managing the Doppler shift ...\n>   -- how are you doing it on your portable station?\n> It would be interesting to have some sort Doppler shift simulator  and let\n> participants get a sense of the tuning required.\n>\n> 7.   Are you thinking about working a pass during the workshop?\n>    FO-29 goes overhead between  11:30am - 12:30\n>   We should also be able to get in an SO-50 (FM bird) pass\n>\n> 8.Possible Talk Topics\n>     -  \"getting ready to work the next AMSAT-NA cubsat\n>     - SDR's how they work\n>     - AMSAT-NA - Current Operational Status of existing sats\n>       -- Near future plans - (can we get Drew to stop by?)\n>     - Pat - do you have any of your balloon hardware you want to show off\n> --\n> or talk about recent flights?\n>\n>\n> 73,\n> Bruce\n> WA3SWJ\n>\n>\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Via the AMSAT-DC mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA\n> [email protected]\n> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-dc\n>\n",
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