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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/A3NLYKQJGEWVAQNASVGS7ZVGUXHLVAHR/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "004a01c7f98a$555c1690$0301a8c0@Shop", "message_id_hash": "A3NLYKQJGEWVAQNASVGS7ZVGUXHLVAHR", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/SKIOQMZV7Q2MKTO7265BX7X7CS2P3JSG/", "sender": { "address": "juan-rivera (a) sbcglobal.net", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Juan Rivera", "subject": "[eagle] Re: YAHOO!!!! IT WORKS!!!!", "date": "2007-09-18T00:24:52Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YQEUE5EKL3LZFM2C6YDNBHOVOAH6AJUU/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "All,\n\n \n\nIn our case we were confused because the log showed packets coming and\ngoing, at least I think it did. If the application can tell that nothing is\ngetting acknowledged perhaps it could pop an alert box up. That would have\ndone it for us in this particular instance.\n\n \n\nJuan\n\n \n\n _____ \n\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of\nJim Sanford\nSent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:24 PM\nTo: Bdale Garbee\nCc: Robert McGwier; [email protected]\nSubject: [eagle] Re: YAHOO!!!! IT WORKS!!!!\n\n \n\nBdale:\nI don't disagree with anything you say.\n\nI had in mind something along the lines of installation and/or configuration\ninstructions. Based on Chuck's note, it appears that the user needs to\nspecify address and mode before delivery.\n\nThanks & 73,\nJim\[email protected]\n\n\nBdale Garbee wrote: \n\nOn Sun, 2007-09-16 at 20:27 -0400, Jim Sanford wrote:\n \n\nGuys:\nThere's a lesson here: DOCUMENTATION\n \n\n \nThe only additional documentation I can think of that might help in this\nsort of case would be something like a CAN bus troubleshooting\nflowchart. Having something like that wouldn't help avoid this kind of\nproblem, but it might reduce the time to resolution.\n \nIt does sound like the software Juan is using could use better error\nreporting in the case where there's apparently no module responding at\nthe address selected.\n \nPretty typical in projects like this for us to get a lot of mileage out\nof software and process documentation that's just barely adequate to the\ntask and lacking in \"frills\" like good user interfaces and/or error\nreporting. That doesn't make it right, but I don't think there are any\nmagic fixes, either.\n \nBdale\n \n \n \n\n\n", "attachments": [ { "email": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/A3NLYKQJGEWVAQNASVGS7ZVGUXHLVAHR/", "counter": 2, "name": "attachment.html", "content_type": "text/html", "encoding": "us-ascii", "size": 8879, "download": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/A3NLYKQJGEWVAQNASVGS7ZVGUXHLVAHR/attachment/2/attachment.html" } ] }