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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/EGY7WVKAYQ6ERWGT6WGOGJGOYUJ6E5AN/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/GQN66W4DHOQJYEXDIZCCLWG3525EQ6AV/",
    "sender": {
        "address": "rwmcgwier (a) comcast.net",
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    "sender_name": "Robert McGwier",
    "subject": "[eagle] Re: Where we're heading for bands and services",
    "date": "2006-09-25T12:44:00Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/BFFIAA6JTHMKZ6V2PUWJOEJNW5HMR4JQ/",
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    "content": "Lyle Johnson wrote:\n>\n>> If we don't \"promise\" a performance level, then we must face the \n>> problem that Franklin pointed out with AO-40 -- a set of realistic \n>> user requirements was never presented, so everyone was just flying \n>> blind.\n>\n> I think we need to promise a field strength (flux density, whatever \n> the politically correct term is these days :-) on the ground for a \n> given uplink power by the user, or its equivalent.  We can't control \n> the user's noise environment, but we sure better be able to predict \n> our downlink and publish it and meet it.  And don't forget to add 6 to \n> 8 dB of loss just because, since I seem to recall we've nearly always \n> been 6 to 8 dB shy of our expectatins in the past...\n>\n> 73,\n>\n> Lyle KK7P\n>\n>\n\nThis is misunderstood.   No promised performance level  means  \"We are \nnot promising this will work over 70+% of the orbit and with a few watt \nstation to a  0.6m dish\".   Not as in  \"we ain't even gonna measure \nit\".  All performances are to be measured.  The L performance goal is \n\"best achievable within the constraints\".\n\nBob\n\n\n-- \nAMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats,\nNJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman\n\"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.\nYou pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los\nAngeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly\nthe same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.\nThe only difference is that there is no cat.\" - Einstein\n\n",
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