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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HG4GZQFV33XNGNO6G2MGNEIXEL2WB5HO/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "HG4GZQFV33XNGNO6G2MGNEIXEL2WB5HO", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/NHX6X5EKQIQSZSS634TXEOLCBVH3Q3HB/", "sender": { "address": "wb4gcs (a) amsat.org", "mailman_id": "87014499e012476c8198fad186f7f963", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/87014499e012476c8198fad186f7f963/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Jim Sanford", "subject": "[eagle] Re: Eagle 10 MHz Clock", "date": "2007-04-11T00:52:52Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YHI726XKOOSDMZIPPF2MMNBXAWV2AR3L/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Alan:\nThis requirement came up in the peer review, and was imposed on the design.\n\nIt needs to become a system requirement. I've separately requested \ndraft of such a list of requirements.\n\nThanks & 73,\nJim\n\n\nAlan Bloom wrote:\n\n>Is the 10 MHz reference a possible single point of failure? Has it been\n>made a requirement that all subsystems fail gracefully if the 10 MHz\n>reference disappears?\n>\n>Alan\n>[email protected]\n>\n>On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 20:06, Jim Sanford wrote:\n> \n>\n>>Bill et al:\n>>The requirement for the 10MHz reference descends from the July 2004 \n>>meeting in Orlando. As far as I know, it was never thoroughly \n>>justified, it was stated and made sense at the time. Still does, to me, \n>>tho I could be convinced on a case basis that we might not need it.\n>>\n>>73,\n>>jim\n>>[email protected]\n>>\n>>\n>>Bill Ress wrote:\n>>\n>> \n>>\n>>>Some very good dialog has been taking place, lead by Juan Rivera as he \n>>>heads up the prototype U Receiver build and test project.\n>>>\n>>>Several very important questions have been raised but I'd like to \n>>>address just one with this post.\n>>>\n>>>I've volunteered to design and build the S2 Receiver and the C \n>>>Transmitter and support microwave component efforts on the phased array \n>>>for each. I am finishing efforts on a \"prototype\" single channel \n>>>(assuming there might be several) S2 downconverter.\n>>>\n>>>I fully recognize than \"many\" system design parameters have not yet been \n>>>defined but I'm trying to get that \"definition\" effort moving along.\n>>>\n>>>This is the first one I'd like to address.\n>>>\n>>>In the coarse of designing the LO for the \"prototype\" S2 downconverter I \n>>>have not been too concerned with use of the 10 MHz satellite clock. But \n>>>I think it's time for \"system\" project guidelines to be developed for \n>>>this issue since it can affect the design of all LO's. I have looked for \n>>>guidance on the subject in Eaglepedia and have come up short. Point me \n>>>in the right direction if it's there (and I just couldn't find it).\n>>>\n>>>I hope I'm not rehashing old discussions (I've only been on the team \n>>>since last October) but here are my questions:\n>>>\n>>>1) What is the reason for requiring all LO's to be locked to a 10 MHz \n>>>satellite system clock or are they?\n>>>\n>>>2) Have the performance specifications for the 10 MHz clock been \n>>>developed and what are they (in particular phase noise, frequency \n>>>stability, susceptibility to digital hash, and power level available to \n>>>each using subsystem - to name a few)?\n>>>\n>>>My apologies for sending to the entire Eagle list but I'm not sure who \n>>>has the responsibility for the clock.\n>>>\n>>>Probably more questions to follow!!!\n>>>\n>>>Regards...Bill - N6GHz\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>_______________________________________________\n>>>Via the Eagle mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA\n>>>[email protected]\n>>>http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/eagle\n>>>\n>>> \n>>>\n>>> \n>>>\n>>_______________________________________________\n>>Via the Eagle mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA\n>>[email protected]\n>>http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/eagle\n>> \n>>\n>\n>\n> \n>\n\n\n", "attachments": [ { "email": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HG4GZQFV33XNGNO6G2MGNEIXEL2WB5HO/", "counter": 2, "name": "attachment.html", "content_type": "text/html", "encoding": "us-ascii", "size": 3919, "download": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/HG4GZQFV33XNGNO6G2MGNEIXEL2WB5HO/attachment/2/attachment.html" } ] }