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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YQEUE5EKL3LZFM2C6YDNBHOVOAH6AJUU/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "YQEUE5EKL3LZFM2C6YDNBHOVOAH6AJUU", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/SKIOQMZV7Q2MKTO7265BX7X7CS2P3JSG/", "sender": { "address": "wb4gcs (a) amsat.org", "mailman_id": "87014499e012476c8198fad186f7f963", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/87014499e012476c8198fad186f7f963/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Jim Sanford", "subject": "[eagle] Re: YAHOO!!!! IT WORKS!!!!", "date": "2007-09-17T22:24:01Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XBP3BPN2MDE25JZSX3O2HDPA5XQBYXXX/", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/A3NLYKQJGEWVAQNASVGS7ZVGUXHLVAHR/", "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/E5NEN5M665SP2QPDKIAPBRN3UR63WGXZ/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Bdale:\nI don't disagree with anything you say.\n\nI had in mind something along the lines of installation and/or \nconfiguration instructions. Based on Chuck's note, it appears that the \nuser needs to specify address and mode before delivery.\n\nThanks & 73,\nJim\[email protected]\n\n\nBdale Garbee wrote:\n> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 20:27 -0400, Jim Sanford wrote:\n> \n>> Guys:\n>> There's a lesson here: DOCUMENTATION\n>> \n>\n> The only additional documentation I can think of that might help in this\n> sort of case would be something like a CAN bus troubleshooting\n> flowchart. Having something like that wouldn't help avoid this kind of\n> problem, but it might reduce the time to resolution.\n>\n> It does sound like the software Juan is using could use better error\n> reporting in the case where there's apparently no module responding at\n> the address selected.\n>\n> Pretty typical in projects like this for us to get a lot of mileage out\n> of software and process documentation that's just barely adequate to the\n> task and lacking in \"frills\" like good user interfaces and/or error\n> reporting. That doesn't make it right, but I don't think there are any\n> magic fixes, either.\n> \n> Bdale\n>\n>\n> \n\n\n", "attachments": [ { "email": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YQEUE5EKL3LZFM2C6YDNBHOVOAH6AJUU/", "counter": 2, "name": "attachment.html", "content_type": "text/html", "encoding": "iso-8859-1", "size": 1719, "download": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/YQEUE5EKL3LZFM2C6YDNBHOVOAH6AJUU/attachment/2/attachment.html" } ] }